TOPIC: Golden Ticket Special Reward Suggestion

I had a thought for something GT participants could be given or earn (like, in previous years by hitting a target, etc.) of being able to add a race to your character. For classes using a race - they become a "half-"whatever (half dwarf/half kobold, etc.). If, in future years, races are added to the primary game - these races may be added to any other combination (if the benefit is permanent).

The races would primarily be flavor but could have useful abilities. For example:
Elf - Immune to sleep/charm - +2 to Dex
Halfling - May choose to re-roll 1's (but must take second roll), +1 treasure draw (light fingers)
Kobold - Opposable tail capable of using a wand or potion as a limited extra "hand", +1 treasure draw (light fingers)
Giant - +2 to Str, -2 to AC, Can reach flying creatures with melee weapons
Caveman - Can only use a total of 7 words during an adventure (idea stolen from Land of Og) but has the Halfling feature for re-rolling along with +2 Con
Andriod - Always gets plane cards, etc correct
Troll - Regenerate 5 hp/room, may re-grow lost limbs
Dwarf - +2 Con, +2 Str - May use any shield and any axe regardless of class
Flumph - You can fly! +4 dex, -5 Con, -5 Str, any crit flips you over making you helpless (stunned) until someone helps you by flipping you back over
Gnome - May cast Blur (per the scroll) 1/run, +2 treasure

This could be a way for TD to test races before actually putting them into play more widely while giving GT participants something interesting.

Thoughts?

Fred

I don't recall GT perks ever being specified* in advance.

*in anything other than general terms

Matthew Hayward wrote: Permanent benefits from the GT run (other than the tokens you come to own), have been very sparse.

There were a set of gears one year that granted permanent things like -5 from Shock, or +2 to RFLX or whatever.

There were the Odin's medallions that could grant a permanent extra restricted slot if you slid a 20.

There was a deck of many things which had some permanent effects.

That's it that I'm aware of.

If GT/ST runs are going to grant permanent player boons more than once every 4-5 years, I'd appreciate an update on that before the GTs arrive.

They have never been announced. Why the hell do you feel entitled that you need to be notified. That is BS.

The next thing your going to say is Jeff I need to know how to solve all the puzzles and monster stats in advance. Why stop there.

I would appreciate an update on when I am going to die. Before it actually happens.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Permanent benefits from the GT run (other than the tokens you come to own), have been very sparse.

There were a set of gears one year that granted permanent things like -5 from Shock, or +2 to RFLX or whatever.

There were the Odin's medallions that could grant a permanent extra restricted slot if you slid a 20.

There was a deck of many things which had some permanent effects.

That's it that I'm aware of.

If GT/ST runs are going to grant permanent player boons more than once every 4-5 years, I'd appreciate an update on that before the GTs arrive.

They have never been announced. Why the hell do you feel entitled that you need to be notified. That is BS.

The next thing your going to say is Jeff I need to know how to solve all the puzzles and monster stats in advance. Why stop there.

I would appreciate an update on when I am going to die. Before it actually happens.

I think your hostility is unhelpful. I think it would be helpful for you to take your own advice .


I said 'I would appreciate it.' Your inference from appreciation to entitlement does not follow.

I think it is reasonable to express that I would appreciate advance notice it if the GT surprise would be highly likely to result in permanent character boons, which would be a change from what they have been so far.

In the past TD staff or their delegates have posted threads soliciting community opinion on GT rewards, season bonuses, etc. So I think this topic is not off limits.

More sarcastic then hostile. But if you want hostile I will gladly move to another thread.

If they asked for opinions that doesn’t mean that they should tell everyone everything.
The GT is a reward. Nothing else. TD does not have to do it. Nor do they have to do a special thing after.
Yes you are acting entitled. That is not being hostile. That is just pointing out.
That is like saying I’m going to buy a lottery ticket but I need to know the numbers first.
I don’t think it’s right.

Druegar could you move this thread to the L&L section?

@Matthew - there have been others: a shot at a MCoF in 2012 (that was my first GT). 2013 was a RoH before the recipe was available, so that was kind of a temp-permanent.

In my experience the permanent boons were usually “if you’re lucky” and the temp ones were more sure things.

But this is one reason I’m really hesitant to offer unsolicited suggestions to Jeff on anything he “should” or could give us. I feel lucky when he does anything - like Orion. I don’t want to be misconstrued as ungrateful, and he usually does more than I’d dream of asking for anyway.

I could see a one-time trial run of other races during a GT, or as an option in Grind. Except for that bit tacked at the end of the Gnome. It’s no secret what I think about raising the loot cap... we’d just end up with endless gnome parties parading through the dungeons. The other races would probably only appear in Grind

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Permanent benefits from the GT run (other than the tokens you come to own), have been very sparse.

There were a set of gears one year that granted permanent things like -5 from Shock, or +2 to RFLX or whatever.

There were the Odin's medallions that could grant a permanent extra restricted slot if you slid a 20.

There was a deck of many things which had some permanent effects.

That's it that I'm aware of.

If GT/ST runs are going to grant permanent player boons more than once every 4-5 years, I'd appreciate an update on that before the GTs arrive.

They have never been announced. Why the hell do you feel entitled that you need to be notified. That is BS.

The next thing your going to say is Jeff I need to know how to solve all the puzzles and monster stats in advance. Why stop there.

I would appreciate an update on when I am going to die. Before it actually happens.

I think your hostility is unhelpful. I think it would be helpful for you to take your own advice .


I said 'I would appreciate it.' Your inference from appreciation to entitlement does not follow.

I think it is reasonable to express that I would appreciate advance notice it if the GT surprise would be highly likely to result in permanent character boons, which would be a change from what they have been so far.

In the past TD staff or their delegates have posted threads soliciting community opinion on GT rewards, season bonuses, etc. So I think this topic is not off limits.

More sarcastic then hostile. But if you want hostile I will gladly move to another thread.

If they asked for opinions that doesn’t mean that they should tell everyone everything.
The GT is a reward. Nothing else. TD does not have to do it. Nor do they have to do a special thing after.
Yes you are acting entitled. That is not being hostile. That is just pointing out.
That is like saying I’m going to buy a lottery ticket but I need to know the numbers first.
I don’t think it’s right.

Honestly the thought of any “pre” knowledge sounds pretty lame if you ask me. I mean the whole point of the GTR is mystery isn’t it? Appreciated or not, all pre run knowledge of a thing like that would do is affect the price of the ticket. Cool/Permanent bonus = raised price. Lame/Temporary bonus = lower price. Honestly the only reason anyone would want a “heads up” for a permanent bonus is because they can’t stand the thought of someone else getting a bonus they aren’t. Some of the conversations on here blow me away...

Bob Chasan wrote: Druegar could you move this thread to the L&L section?

If the OP (Fred K) wants it moved, I will oblige.

The mystery about the run and any extra, if there is one, is what makes it exciting.

Don't spoil any of the surprises.

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Permanent benefits from the GT run (other than the tokens you come to own), have been very sparse.

There were a set of gears one year that granted permanent things like -5 from Shock, or +2 to RFLX or whatever.

There were the Odin's medallions that could grant a permanent extra restricted slot if you slid a 20.

There was a deck of many things which had some permanent effects.

That's it that I'm aware of.

If GT/ST runs are going to grant permanent player boons more than once every 4-5 years, I'd appreciate an update on that before the GTs arrive.

They have never been announced. Why the hell do you feel entitled that you need to be notified. That is BS.

The next thing your going to say is Jeff I need to know how to solve all the puzzles and monster stats in advance. Why stop there.

I would appreciate an update on when I am going to die. Before it actually happens.

Chad - the harsh snark is unnecessary.

Druegar, I completely understand that there is no guarantee of anything (even of the goodie bag). My post never said it was an entitlement. I made a suggestion for something I thought was an interesting idea that has an added benefit of letting Td test a new system element for a year at the same time.

Seriously folks. If someone suggests a new idea, they aren’t demanding it nor saying it is required.

Druegar, feel free to lock or delete the thread - it’s pretty clear people are more interested in attacking than discussing an idea or being even civil.

Fred

Fred K wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Permanent benefits from the GT run (other than the tokens you come to own), have been very sparse.

There were a set of gears one year that granted permanent things like -5 from Shock, or +2 to RFLX or whatever.

There were the Odin's medallions that could grant a permanent extra restricted slot if you slid a 20.

There was a deck of many things which had some permanent effects.

That's it that I'm aware of.

If GT/ST runs are going to grant permanent player boons more than once every 4-5 years, I'd appreciate an update on that before the GTs arrive.

They have never been announced. Why the hell do you feel entitled that you need to be notified. That is BS.

The next thing your going to say is Jeff I need to know how to solve all the puzzles and monster stats in advance. Why stop there.

I would appreciate an update on when I am going to die. Before it actually happens.

Chad - the harsh snark is unnecessary.

Druegar, I completely understand that there is no guarantee of anything (even of the goodie bag). My post never said it was an entitlement. I made a suggestion for something I thought was an interesting idea that has an added benefit of letting Td test a new system element for a year at the same time.

Seriously folks. If someone suggests a new idea, they aren’t demanding it nor saying it is required.

Druegar, feel free to lock or delete the thread - it’s pretty clear people are more interested in attacking than discussing an idea or being even civil.

Fred

Fred, I like your suggestion, but I'd prefer if GT run bonuses are limited time (like they affect all Dungeons for the next 12 or 24 months) than forever. I think all the previous permanent GT run bonuses would have been fine as limited duration instead.