TOPIC: 2027 - 2030 Multi-Year Transmute Tokens

To give token collectors a good idea of future plans for multi-year Treasure Token transmutes, we have made this graphic.

truedungeon.com/files/2027-30_Transmutes.jpg

Also, below is a PDF with mostly 2027 Treasure Token info, but there might be some useful info here, too:

truedungeon.com/files/2027_Token_Notes_Final.pdf

Is this final, or is there still room for change, as the issue with 8k slotless tokens with bonuses that also combine into a multi-year token is a fairly big issue for many in the community, as it forces those striving for the best of the best to buy 2 of them, as to keep a set for after the transmute becomes available.

Ben Krupa wrote: Is this final, or is there still room for change, as the issue with 8k slotless tokens with bonuses that also combine into a multi-year token is a fairly big issue for many in the community, as it forces those striving for the best of the best to buy 2 of them, as to keep a set for after the transmute becomes available.

Based on what you are saying one could argue that there was an issue with the current Path Fragment transmute path because some people that are trying for the best of the best couldn't afford it. You could carry this argument on to just about any Token because every person has a different amount of disposable income. There is no issue with the Token design. If you want two sets get two sets. If you can't afford it don't. All players want maxed out builds, but not all can afford it. That's how it's always been. The only issue here is TD has decided to design a set of Tokens that you can't afford. That's not their issue. A stat bump on each individual Paragon Token will help them retain their value for the ones that don't get transmuted. In theory this should help drive more Token sales. Personally I'd like for them not to have a stat boost because I think it feeds the power creep machine but I get why they are doing it.

Jeff, thanks so much for all of the information at the start of the multi-year transmute cycles! It is going to make it much easier for people to decide which sets to try to transmute.

Rob F wrote:

Ben Krupa wrote: Is this final, or is there still room for change, as the issue with 8k slotless tokens with bonuses that also combine into a multi-year token is a fairly big issue for many in the community, as it forces those striving for the best of the best to buy 2 of them, as to keep a set for after the transmute becomes available.

Based on what you are saying one could argue that there was an issue with the current Path Fragment transmute path because some people that are trying for the best of the best couldn't afford it. You could carry this argument on to just about any Token because every person has a different amount of disposable income. There is no issue with the Token design. If you want two sets get two sets. If you can't afford it don't. All players want maxed out builds, but not all can afford it. That's how it's always been. The only issue here is TD has decided to design a set of Tokens that you can't afford. That's not their issue. A stat bump on each individual Paragon Token will help them retain their value for the ones that don't get transmuted. In theory this should help drive more Token sales. Personally I'd like for them not to have a stat boost because I think it feeds the power creep machine but I get why they are doing it.

Yeah, the fact that it's also some serious power creep, due to them being slotless, and based on the precedent of slotless transmutes of the past, like RoSP and Skull, the final product doesn't stack with the individual tokens, while these ones would, since they transmute into a different slot.

Ben Krupa wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Ben Krupa wrote: Is this final, or is there still room for change, as the issue with 8k slotless tokens with bonuses that also combine into a multi-year token is a fairly big issue for many in the community, as it forces those striving for the best of the best to buy 2 of them, as to keep a set for after the transmute becomes available.

Based on what you are saying one could argue that there was an issue with the current Path Fragment transmute path because some people that are trying for the best of the best couldn't afford it. You could carry this argument on to just about any Token because every person has a different amount of disposable income. There is no issue with the Token design. If you want two sets get two sets. If you can't afford it don't. All players want maxed out builds, but not all can afford it. That's how it's always been. The only issue here is TD has decided to design a set of Tokens that you can't afford. That's not their issue. A stat bump on each individual Paragon Token will help them retain their value for the ones that don't get transmuted. In theory this should help drive more Token sales. Personally I'd like for them not to have a stat boost because I think it feeds the power creep machine but I get why they are doing it.

Yeah, the fact that it's also some serious power creep, due to them being slotless, and based on the precedent of slotless transmutes of the past, like RoSP and Skull, the final product doesn't stack with the individual tokens, while these ones would, since they transmute into a different slot.

Personally I like it the way it is. I may be able to afford one in 2027 but not one in 2028, so it having that stat bump is why I am going from ignoring that 8k multi year to now considering it.