TOPIC: Focus weapon clairification

valetutto wrote: Problem solved with tokens!
Need to make these.


Weapon Master's Charm (UR)

Can stow, retrieve or switch between your Melee and Ranged sets without the need for a free action.
1/round


Greater Weapon Master's Charm (Relic)
Can stow, retrieve or switch between your Melee and Ranged weapons without the need for a free action.
Unlimited


Supreme Weapon Master's Charm (legendary)
Take any number of free actions.

Are you intentionally excluding Bardic instruments and things that one might hold in hands while spellcasting but not during Melee or Ranged...

Be careful what you ask for...

Wow you created the first relic that I will not make....lol.

Why would you swap weapons more than once per round?

Those bards do weird things...lol.

valetutto wrote: Problem solved with tokens!
Need to make these.


Weapon Master's Charm (UR)

Can stow, retrieve or switch between your Melee and Ranged sets without the need for a free action.
1/round


Greater Weapon Master's Charm (Relic)
Can stow, retrieve or switch between your Melee and Ranged weapons without the need for a free action.
Unlimited


Supreme Weapon Master's Charm (legendary)
Take any number of free actions.

That Legendary would allow you to quaff infinite potions as long as you had them. Here, DM, I am drinking these 300 Potions of Bull's Strength. That gives me +600 to-Hit and +600 to-Damage. Say "goodbye" Mr Epic Level Monster. LOL!!

As long as your puck slide is anywhere near the Monster silhouette you'd hit. The rest of the Party wouldn't even have to bother sliding and risking hitting your slider off the board.

And, IIRC, the Rule of 3 (or is it 4?) only applies to negatives.

Ro-gan wrote:

valetutto wrote: Problem solved with tokens!
Need to make these.


Weapon Master's Charm (UR)

Can stow, retrieve or switch between your Melee and Ranged sets without the need for a free action.
1/round


Greater Weapon Master's Charm (Relic)
Can stow, retrieve or switch between your Melee and Ranged weapons without the need for a free action.
Unlimited


Supreme Weapon Master's Charm (legendary)
Take any number of free actions.

That Legendary would allow you to quaff infinite potions as long as you had them. Here, DM, I am drinking these 300 Potions of Bull's Strength. That gives me +600 to-Hit and +600 to-Damage. Say "goodbye" Mr Epic Level Monster. LOL!!

As long as your puck slide is anywhere near the Monster silhouette you'd hit. The rest of the Party wouldn't even have to bother sliding and risking hitting your slider off the board.

And, IIRC, the Rule of 3 (or is it 4?) only applies to negatives.

That would be true, if not for DMG p44:

When consuming multiple quantities of a specific food/herb/potion which has both a positive and negative effect, only the negative effects are cumulative. The only exception to this is an effect that heals damage.

Ro-gan wrote:

valetutto wrote: Problem solved with tokens!
Need to make these.


Weapon Master's Charm (UR)

Can stow, retrieve or switch between your Melee and Ranged sets without the need for a free action.
1/round


Greater Weapon Master's Charm (Relic)
Can stow, retrieve or switch between your Melee and Ranged weapons without the need for a free action.
Unlimited


Supreme Weapon Master's Charm (legendary)
Take any number of free actions.

That Legendary would allow you to quaff infinite potions as long as you had them. Here, DM, I am drinking these 300 Potions of Bull's Strength. That gives me +600 to-Hit and +600 to-Damage. Say "goodbye" Mr Epic Level Monster. LOL!!

As long as your puck slide is anywhere near the Monster silhouette you'd hit. The rest of the Party wouldn't even have to bother sliding and risking hitting your slider off the board.

And, IIRC, the Rule of 3 (or is it 4?) only applies to negatives.

Drinking a potion is a standard action, not a free action.

You're killing me, Smalls.

Brad Mortensen wrote: Why would you swap weapons more than once per round?

The only use case I can think for the specific ability to allow multiple weapon swaps here surround one of:

1. Shield of the Scholar
2. Stu's +3 Handy Stein

The ability to switch hands items without the free action cost would allow you to equip one of these, use it's "as a free action" effect, and then switch back to whatever you would rather hold in your hands (e.g. Deathcleaver, a Bow, a shield that is part of a set bonus, a bard instrument, etc.).

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: Why would you swap weapons more than once per round?

The only use case I can think for the specific ability to allow multiple weapon swaps here surround one of:

1. Shield of the Scholar
2. Stu's +3 Handy Stein

The ability to switch hands items without the free action cost would allow you to equip one of these, use it's "as a free action" effect, and then switch back to whatever you would rather hold in your hands (e.g. Deathcleaver, a Bow, a shield that is part of a set bonus, a bard instrument, etc.).

Maybe because your weapons kept getting eaten by Rust Monsters?

Or you dropped them because of the Cold Climate environmental rules?

Incognito wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: Why would you swap weapons more than once per round?

The only use case I can think for the specific ability to allow multiple weapon swaps here surround one of:

1. Shield of the Scholar
2. Stu's +3 Handy Stein

The ability to switch hands items without the free action cost would allow you to equip one of these, use it's "as a free action" effect, and then switch back to whatever you would rather hold in your hands (e.g. Deathcleaver, a Bow, a shield that is part of a set bonus, a bard instrument, etc.).

Maybe because your weapons kept getting eaten by Rust Monsters?

Or you dropped them because of the Cold Climate environmental rules?

Or you like to juggle sharp objects.

Lots of reasons to swap weapons!

If you want to look at the more "grok" options: Attack with 2 hander, switch to defend with shield. Congrats on shielded AC. If you had enough free actions you could do this all the time.
Same thing to switch with bow.


yeah sorry no infinite potions unless you had some tokens I'm unaware of.

Best I can think of would be:
Potion using Stein
Potion using Tulz
Potion using quiver - yes its actually an oil but close enough.
Potion using a belt
Be a drunken monk

At the higher levels it would unlock a lot of items that "sit" around and allow for more consumables to get used.
It would help increase the value of the consumables as it would allow you to apply them in the first round.


As to the bard thing I figured there would be a way for it to apply to the bard. mostly I would just make the legendary and that would solve the issue.


From a practical point of view, I suspect this Already happens. By that I mean to say, Many DMs are too busy to keep track of the free actions folks want to take and plenty of players forget to don't know about them as well.

This also ends up as a plea to "Let us use our tokens".