TOPIC: First timer looking for advice

Druegar wrote:

Chris Von Wahlde wrote: Don't stress the memorization. It only means the difference between a couple points of extra damage or healing

Chris is spot-on. After the 2016 class changes, the difference in every case is a "whopping" 3 points--certainly nothing to fret about.

And, many of the veteran TD Players who do have everything memorized don't even bother with the Skill Checks in order to save time in the Room. You only get 12 minutes in every Room so time is extremely valuable.

Chris Von Wahlde wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Christopher Tavares wrote: I was thinking of buying about $100 worth of token packs.

12 packs will cost $96.

30 packs costs $250, plus you get to choose a UR that you could keep, or sell for about $90-100

And so it begins...

What he said.

Oh yeah! That's pretty much how it happened to be since I started playing in 2005.

I went from getting the free bag of Tokens just from running through the adventure my first two years. Then in year 3 I dropped $250 so I could have a little more options. The next year it was another $250 so I could do some cool transmuting at GenCon. The next year I'm dropping money for two $250 orders. It all becomes a blur the following years as I'm doing $1K to $2K orders to get the Guild Badges and Rod parts and Boots and now Teeth. This year I went nuts for an $8K order to get a Dragon Orb and Onyx Tokens...

... My name is Luke... I'm a Tokenholic.

Ro-gan wrote: Using the TDb can be time consuming for figuring out the best Tokens to use for every Character Class and which ones overlap. I recommend using Cranston's True Dungeon Character Generator.

Or use Amorgen's character generator . It's free, but it requires Excel.

Ro-gan wrote: It's so easy to use and I believe it's a free app.

It is easy to use, but it's not free . It's a measly three bucks and totally worth it.

Druegar wrote:

Ro-gan wrote: Using the TDb can be time consuming for figuring out the best Tokens to use for every Character Class and which ones overlap. I recommend using Cranston's True Dungeon Character Generator.

Or use Amorgen's character generator . It's free, but it requires Excel.

Ro-gan wrote: It's so easy to use and I believe it's a free app.

It is easy to use, but it's not free . It's a measly three bucks and totally worth it.

Already bought it. Thanks guys. Now still wondering if I want to spend the $250. Lol

Christopher Tavares wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Ro-gan wrote: Using the TDb can be time consuming for figuring out the best Tokens to use for every Character Class and which ones overlap. I recommend using Cranston's True Dungeon Character Generator.

Or use Amorgen's character generator . It's free, but it requires Excel.

Ro-gan wrote: It's so easy to use and I believe it's a free app.

It is easy to use, but it's not free . It's a measly three bucks and totally worth it.

Already bought it. Thanks guys. Now still wondering if I want to spend the $250. Lol

If you will enjoy the process of sorting through and exploring all of the tokens and then building various builds for a few different character classes, then yeah I would. But don't do it otherwise. You don't need to spend $250 to play the game and enjoy it.

My first two years I simply ordered a few 10-packs in advance so I could enter the dungeon with at least a few good tokens, and then I finalized my builds on-site with the additional 10-pack you receive in the dungeon. But then my third year I spent the $250 and well let's just say that it didn't end there

If you already think you are going to spend $100+ then I'd say go ahead and spend $250 if you have the money. Worst case you sell or trade away that UR to people here on the forums if you decide you don't want it.

But just to re-iterate. You don't need to walk in with any tokens to enjoy it and have fun. But if you enjoy preparing then you'll enjoy buying some in advance. Of course buying these tokens will increase the chances that you'll survive the dungeon, but you could also spend no money and run at non-lethal mode instead.

PS - for the veterans. Does non-lethal mode have to be agreed to by all players in order to run at that level? I can't remember.

I'm pretty sure non lethal has to be voted all in just like hardcore.

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Christopher Tavares wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Ro-gan wrote: Using the TDb can be time consuming for figuring out the best Tokens to use for every Character Class and which ones overlap. I recommend using Cranston's True Dungeon Character Generator.

Or use Amorgen's character generator . It's free, but it requires Excel.

Ro-gan wrote: It's so easy to use and I believe it's a free app.

It is easy to use, but it's not free . It's a measly three bucks and totally worth it.

Already bought it. Thanks guys. Now still wondering if I want to spend the $250. Lol

If you will enjoy the process of sorting through and exploring all of the tokens and then building various builds for a few different character classes, then yeah I would. But don't do it otherwise. You don't need to spend $250 to play the game and enjoy it.

My first two years I simply ordered a few 10-packs in advance so I could enter the dungeon with at least a few good tokens, and then I finalized my builds on-site with the additional 10-pack you receive in the dungeon. But then my third year I spent the $250 and well let's just say that it didn't end there

If you already think you are going to spend $100+ then I'd say go ahead and spend $250 if you have the money. Worst case you sell or trade away that UR to people here on the forums if you decide you don't want it.

But just to re-iterate. You don't need to walk in with any tokens to enjoy it and have fun. But if you enjoy preparing then you'll enjoy buying some in advance. Of course buying these tokens will increase the chances that you'll survive the dungeon, but you could also spend no money and run at non-lethal mode instead.

PS - for the veterans. Does non-lethal mode have to be agreed to by all players in order to run at that level? I can't remember.

Thanks, yeah I already had $100 worth of 10 packs in my cart. Seems worth it to go up to the $250. If I do I just need to decide I what ur I want

I am pretty sure I read that if you want to change from normal, that everyone in the party needs to agree.

So if you spend $250 and put together a few good build possibilities, your changes of survival on Normal difficulty is really good, probably close to 100%. If you spend no money on tokens then your changes of making to the final room are still probably 90% or more, and your changes of surviving the final room are probably still 50+%.

But you don't need a UR to enjoy or even survive at Normal difficulty. So I'd suggest choosing the UR that you like best for yourself and/or your character, without worrying too much on which might be more valuable to trade or sell.

Kirk Bauer wrote: So if you spend $250 and put together a few good build possibilities, your changes of survival on Normal difficulty is really good, probably close to 100%. If you spend no money on tokens then your changes of making to the final room are still probably 90% or more, and your changes of surviving the final room are probably still 50+%.

But you don't need a UR to enjoy or even survive at Normal difficulty. So I'd suggest choosing the UR that you like best for yourself and/or your character, without worrying too much on which might be more valuable to trade or sell.

I wold pick something that I like and that would help a few diffrent classes, since I am not sure what I will be able to play. I have it narrowed down to a few diffrent ones.

Christopher Tavares wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Christopher Tavares wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Ro-gan wrote: Using the TDb can be time consuming for figuring out the best Tokens to use for every Character Class and which ones overlap. I recommend using Cranston's True Dungeon Character Generator.

Or use Amorgen's character generator . It's free, but it requires Excel.

Ro-gan wrote: It's so easy to use and I believe it's a free app.

It is easy to use, but it's not free . It's a measly three bucks and totally worth it.

Already bought it. Thanks guys. Now still wondering if I want to spend the $250. Lol

If you will enjoy the process of sorting through and exploring all of the tokens and then building various builds for a few different character classes, then yeah I would. But don't do it otherwise. You don't need to spend $250 to play the game and enjoy it.

My first two years I simply ordered a few 10-packs in advance so I could enter the dungeon with at least a few good tokens, and then I finalized my builds on-site with the additional 10-pack you receive in the dungeon. But then my third year I spent the $250 and well let's just say that it didn't end there

If you already think you are going to spend $100+ then I'd say go ahead and spend $250 if you have the money. Worst case you sell or trade away that UR to people here on the forums if you decide you don't want it.

But just to re-iterate. You don't need to walk in with any tokens to enjoy it and have fun. But if you enjoy preparing then you'll enjoy buying some in advance. Of course buying these tokens will increase the chances that you'll survive the dungeon, but you could also spend no money and run at non-lethal mode instead.

PS - for the veterans. Does non-lethal mode have to be agreed to by all players in order to run at that level? I can't remember.

Thanks, yeah I already had $100 worth of 10 packs in my cart. Seems worth it to go up to the $250. If I do I just need to decide I what ur I want

I am pretty sure I read that if you want to change from normal, that everyone in the party needs to agree.

Bookkeeping point - take the packs out of your cart. To minimize hassle and drama, if you're going for the $250, buy the bundle.

TD doesn't usually combine orders of less that $250 towards the various awards.

If you already paid, you MIGHT be able to talk them into an accommodation since its your first year, but it's better if you avoid that route.

Besides, it's only May. You have six-ish weeks to order and still get your goodies before GenCon.

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Christopher Tavares wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Christopher Tavares wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Ro-gan wrote: Using the TDb can be time consuming for figuring out the best Tokens to use for every Character Class and which ones overlap. I recommend using Cranston's True Dungeon Character Generator.

Or use Amorgen's character generator . It's free, but it requires Excel.

Ro-gan wrote: It's so easy to use and I believe it's a free app.

It is easy to use, but it's not free . It's a measly three bucks and totally worth it.

Already bought it. Thanks guys. Now still wondering if I want to spend the $250. Lol

If you will enjoy the process of sorting through and exploring all of the tokens and then building various builds for a few different character classes, then yeah I would. But don't do it otherwise. You don't need to spend $250 to play the game and enjoy it.

My first two years I simply ordered a few 10-packs in advance so I could enter the dungeon with at least a few good tokens, and then I finalized my builds on-site with the additional 10-pack you receive in the dungeon. But then my third year I spent the $250 and well let's just say that it didn't end there

If you already think you are going to spend $100+ then I'd say go ahead and spend $250 if you have the money. Worst case you sell or trade away that UR to people here on the forums if you decide you don't want it.

But just to re-iterate. You don't need to walk in with any tokens to enjoy it and have fun. But if you enjoy preparing then you'll enjoy buying some in advance. Of course buying these tokens will increase the chances that you'll survive the dungeon, but you could also spend no money and run at non-lethal mode instead.

PS - for the veterans. Does non-lethal mode have to be agreed to by all players in order to run at that level? I can't remember.

Thanks, yeah I already had $100 worth of 10 packs in my cart. Seems worth it to go up to the $250. If I do I just need to decide I what ur I want

I am pretty sure I read that if you want to change from normal, that everyone in the party needs to agree.

Bookkeeping point - take the packs out of your cart. To minimize hassle and drama, if you're going for the $250, buy the bundle.

TD doesn't usually combine orders of less that $250 towards the various awards.

If you already paid, you MIGHT be able to talk them into an accommodation since its your first year, but it's better if you avoid that route.

Besides, it's only May. You have six-ish weeks to order and still get your goodies before GenCon.

I did not buy anything yet, and already took the 10 sets out of my cart. I don't know anything about awards, what are these?

Kirk Bauer wrote: Does non-lethal mode have to be agreed to by all players in order to run at that level?

Speaking as a CC:
Choosing to run on anything other than Normal challenge mode must be a unanimous decision.