TOPIC: Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls

JACKOFTRADZE wrote: I posted my pulls in the doc for the first time to hopefully help the study. I do not think there is a set formula per say, it's all timing and what you get, but it is very fun to speculate. I talked to some players that had 300 pulls and did not get a single UR. It makes sense because you are not guaranteed that in the 250 packs.

This year was my greatest haul ever! I doubt I will ever match this again and that is totally fine. GHC & TDC both treated me very well, plus 3 out of 4 of my 250 packs yielded an extra UR. 2017 has been stellar treasure wise and there is still one more Con to go!

The highlights from my 147 GC pulls:
Aron's Sunhide Robe (*Traded it for x2 25k Bars, Viper Shirt, Charm of Brooching, Shadowskin Cloak & Stu Pendous Pendant)
Ioun Stone Tanzite Sphere
Ioun Stone Charming Cabochon (*Traded it for Pixie Figurine)
Kilt of Tavernbane
Greater Arcane Scroll Tube
15 Monster Bits
3,550 Gold
7 Darkguard Greaves
Greater Holly Ring (Was in one of my 50 Bags)

I was on such a crazy Token high this Gencon. My last 18 pulls were very crappy but at that point I really did not care at all.

Yeah I remember walking by and seeing that bag you had the Aron's and Tanzanite Sphere in and congratulating you. I wish my pulls had ended up anywhere's close to as good as yours. They started pretty decent with a 50 bag with a relic and UR but the last 150 pulls didn't pan out at all.

Updated the spreadsheet with my 200 pulls.

Eldar wrote: Yeah I remember walking by and seeing that bag you had the Aron's and Tanzanite Sphere in and congratulating you. I wish my pulls had ended up anywhere's close to as good as yours. They started pretty decent with a 50 bag with a relic and UR but the last 150 pulls didn't pan out at all.

Updated the spreadsheet with my 200 pulls.

Dude, you will get you your big score too so don't be too bummed. We all have had our share of dud treasure. Trust me, I have had some real turd burglar pulls prior to 2017. I appreciate the congrats but I was in the right place at the right time to get handed the bags and chose the right pull spot. I believe (and feel) a dear friend who passed less a week ago gave me a hand in my haul as his last nod before he leaves for the Great Beyond. It may sound weird to some but there were little signs along the way he came with us to GC. RIP Andrew, you were truly "El Hombre"!

I stated this in another thread, but it really did seem like the later the bag/pull the lamer the mix got after late Friday on. My last 18 were like SeaTurtle Shield bad. I watched a lot of pulls and talked to a lot of players and it seemed like that was the general consensus - disappointment in the treasure overall. It's subjective to a degree but in the end it seemed like the odds were on par with a 250 pack without a PYP. I'm curious to see this list expand to see if the actual score reflects a different story

Ring of the Hallowed and Boots of Foresight were completion for what? I thought the boots were for Grind, but not sure. Either way, what was the other one for?

Lodestone (KH) wrote: Ring of the Hallowed and Boots of Foresight were completion for what? I thought the boots were for Grind, but not sure. Either way, what was the other one for?

RotH was from TDC and treasure box.

BoF are Grind Completion.

Ah, TDC. I couldn't make that. That explains it.

Thanks!

I've added separate lines for my 50s and pulls to see how they both look. All I can tell is my draw ability sucks.

Bummer- already mixed up my pulls with my starter bags - I do know I pulled my first purp - a Cown of Elemental Mastery (already have the Circlet, but it's the principle of the thing!).

My group doesn't even open the starter bags any more. As soon as they get them they are put away and I open them after gen con. Git a random UR in one this year.

Had 8 pulls this year, nothing as percentage skewing as last year, but did get a 2 for 1 on my final pull i got to keep, ended up with 5 rares, 2 uncommons, 2 bits. Found the front box much better for bits.

My luck was in the 1 random pack I bought when I went to explore the area Thursday night, that netted me my first 00 pack roll with a Shirt of the Fae. The monster bits, shirt, and others went into a trade with Kirk so I now have a shiny new Kilt ^_^

jedibcg wrote: I have said it before and I will say it again the 50 bags are from the same mix. At least 900 maybe 950 of my pulls were from the bags both blue and clear. I spoke to Chandler who made the 50 clear bags. They were 50 tokens from the mix. He didn't look what went in them but did notice lots of colors. I pulled the first 2 clear bags (arpund 130pm) and last 3 on Saturday (around 6pm not certain if they made more). If it seems the box was hotter it is a perception. If someone pulls 3 to 19 from the box and gets something good you will hear about it. You don't hear from everyone that that doesn't an UR or better from there 3 to 19 pulls. You do hear about bad 50 bags.

The 50 bags and the boxes are all from the same mix.

However, the 50 bags are straight from bucket to bag, untouched, whereas the treasure boxes begin to skew after the first pull.

So 50 bags are always going to be the same chances, but the boxes will depend on everyone else's good or bad luck before you.

On a slightly related note, did anyone else receive an unusually high number of clothing items and uncommon armor? We pulled around 150 points' worth of clothing (6 silks) and about 20 uncommon armors out of 155 pulls.

I'm not complaining, I needed both, but it was definitely noticeable. We had one 50 bag and the rest were all manual pulls.

Joshua Baessler wrote: On a slightly related note, did anyone else receive an unusually high number of clothing items and uncommon armor? We pulled around 150 points' worth of clothing (6 silks) and about 20 uncommon armors out of 155 pulls.

I'm not complaining, I needed both, but it was definitely noticeable. We had one 50 bag and the rest were all manual pulls.

I sorted my tokens last night and am preparing to send in for 11 Mystic Silk.

Joshua Baessler wrote:

jedibcg wrote: I have said it before and I will say it again the 50 bags are from the same mix. At least 900 maybe 950 of my pulls were from the bags both blue and clear. I spoke to Chandler who made the 50 clear bags. They were 50 tokens from the mix. He didn't look what went in them but did notice lots of colors. I pulled the first 2 clear bags (arpund 130pm) and last 3 on Saturday (around 6pm not certain if they made more). If it seems the box was hotter it is a perception. If someone pulls 3 to 19 from the box and gets something good you will hear about it. You don't hear from everyone that that doesn't an UR or better from there 3 to 19 pulls. You do hear about bad 50 bags.

The 50 bags and the boxes are all from the same mix.

However, the 50 bags are straight from bucket to bag, untouched, whereas the treasure boxes begin to skew after the first pull.

So 50 bags are always going to be the same chances, but the boxes will depend on everyone else's good or bad luck before you.

By that same logic though as soon as one bag is filled it skews the rest of the bags.