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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #25

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True, but it would take a heap of reds for equivalent value. More importantly though, I'm not really lacking for any reds right now.

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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #26

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same here - you sure would think that would drive the guide price down...just the two of us and maybe Smak to boot...
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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #27

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The price guide, in general, is a self-fullfilling prophecy. It's nice enough to say that any deal where both people walk away happy is spiffy, but it's often the only bridge for neutral negotiation. It's like we discussed with the elixer. It's really not worth 600 gp in most estimations, but people buy it and hoard it because it's supposedly valuable which drives up its price whenever it's traded about.

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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #28

*rocks back and forth gently caressing his Ring of Reg. token*<br /><br />My prrrreeecioussss...
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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #29

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Funny that. There are more RoR's out there than any other purple, but non-players hoard them for the sentimental value. That actually ends up making them rarer than the others.

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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #30

<br />Funny that. There are more RoR's out there than any other purple, but non-players hoard them for the sentimental value. That actually ends up making them rarer than the others.<br />

<br /><br />Bingo. The RoR token was the volunteer token from my first year volunteering with TD so it holds many a fond memory. Unfortunately I had to leave early on Sunday this past Indy GenCon and missed the mug.
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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #31

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<br />Admittedly, my knowledge of D&D3.5 is limited but as far as I know the Rings of Protection DO stack just as two Rings of Regeneration and two Rings of Evasion would.<br /><br />The only limit was two rings total and if stacking isn't allowed in TD, this would be a new rule.    Personally, I think we should follow 3.5 rules to prevent any disgruntled players.<br />

<br /><br />Umm, in 3.5 they definitely wouldn't stack. They haven't stacked since 2nd edition. <br />

<br /><br />I've been doing a little poking around to see what the "official" ruling on Rings stacking.  I did find the Open Source 3.5 Rules (d20) on the Wizards webpage here<br /><br /> www.wizards.com/d20/files/v35/MagicItemsIII.rtf <br /><br />It does list the 2 ring limit rule but it makes no mention of Rings not stacking.  Henwy, can you point to the rule were it states that Rings do not stack?  What was your source for that?<br /><br />Of course, ultimately, this is TD and the decision doesn't have to follow D&D3.5 but it would be nice to know for sure.
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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #32

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What would you guys do without me? DMG 3.5 Pg 21 or so.<br /><br />

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<br /><br />Most protective whozits like rings of protection all offer the same type of protection, deflection. Bracers of armor would also clash with any sort of armor unless it were stated that they were bracers of natural armor.

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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #33

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Hrm, so reading these rules, its clear (if I understand them correctly) that TD has set a precedent with not following these rules to the letter so I think the Jury is still out on this one.
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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #34

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The jury may be out and it may come down to KISS rules.<br /><br />I mean we saw slot rules develope when the Gloves and Gauntlets and Bracers all came into question...they resolved pretty simply.<br /><br />Now we are looking at a stacking question.  The KISS answer might be that TD does not allow multiple items of the same slot type to be worn and grant cumlative bonuses...this means wearing more than one amulet will only yield the highest plus given by the most powerful single amulet worn.  Same goes for rings - even though they are on different hands.<br /><br />We of the Jury vote this way...it is a KISS solution and keeps with TD being different than 3.5 or 1.0 or whatever.
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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #35

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Hrm, interesting.  To me, the simplest answer is to let things stack.  We currently have a rule of two ring slots.  By preventing stacking you need to add another rule about what can't be worn with what and what is considered the same bonus type.<br /><br />Not saying we shouldn't limit stacking but it will make things more complex if that is the issue.
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Re: Girdle for Trade 18 years 1 month ago #36

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I guess I don't see any reason to say that since two amulets can't be worn in the same slot that a ring that does the same thing can be worn on each hand.  But then again the world of Magic is not this Cleric's specialty.<br /><br />And as for bracers stacking - I would just say that clearly they are bracers of natural armor or whatever qualifies them as stackable with rings or what not.
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