TOPIC: What Needs a Reprint in 2010?

Well, Clerics are still the only ones that can turn undead - so you've still got that going for you  =)

hmmm, what is that turn damage anyway...lemme see...last time I tried to turn in 2005 it was 1-4...now with the better Holy item it is what 2-5?<br /><br />I think we can safely say turning stinks!  It does not even have a shot at driving the undead away!  PEE-YEW!  <br /><br />You want to go ahead and buff up the undead turning thing...BMG...but don't even claim that as a perk of the Men in Robes!

Turn damage is 1-8, just like CLW.<br />

hmmm - ok <br /><br />2-9 turning (assumes better holy thingy)<br />3-12 with skull (plus strength)...or<br />3-10 hammer (plus strength)...or<br />3-10 GMace (plus strength)...or<br />3-6 sling (plus bullet, maybe dex)...or<br />1-10 thunderstone (plus dex)...or<br />8 thunderstone...or<br />Heal someone...or<br />ok point made?  <br /><br />no?  Is Turn Undead automatic hit?  That might help a tad bit?<br /><br />

<br />no?  Is Turn Undead automatic hit?  That might help a tad bit?<br />

<br /><br />I think Turn is auto-hit, with damage based on the bead check.  Plus, if not mistaken it affects all undead in the room.  Which, granted, has never been an issue, but in a room with 4 Skeletons, it might be nice to have some good Turning. <br />

Not sure if it affects all undead in a room - that would need a Jeff ruling.  Damage is based on a bead check, so it is automatic.  Only once per room, though.<br />

Affecting all in the room would balance it nicely, since you can only do it once per combat, anyway.  And 8hp is meager to a Vampire, but nice against 4 Skeletons - and we hardly ever face multiple monsters, but it would be a nice power to have if we did.  Like Gary pointed out, nearly every Rare/UR Cleric weapon option has better damage than 1-8.  I'm not saying the Cleric needs much pumping up, but the Turn Undead power is pretty weak if it only affects a single target.  <br />

Turning would be interesting if it factored in the PLAYER level...say +1hp per player level!  Now we are talking!!!!

Tokens like death's door should be in short supply. It should not be easy to raise someone from the dead. I would not oppose adding one raise dead to the cleric spell list, and I also would not want to see the market flooded with death's door or something similar. That being said, I agree that most if not all purple consumables, even raise deads, will not be used (probably won't even enter the dungeon).

Shall we sing a song for the poor paladin.  Preachy, but not a divine scroll reader.  Smite-y, but not a turner of undead.  Opinionated, and yet no one listened to you when you said the evil outsider was not evil.  How unloved you must feel!

I also feel tokens like Death's Door should be in short supply.  Hopefully it will stay out of print for at least a few more years.  I wouldn't mind not having any more resurrection tokens, it would add more of an element of danger to the Dungeons.  I wouldn't want a Resurrection spell for the Cleric, that seems too powerful, and really could lead to a "he only resurrected his friend" type of situation.  Plus - if there is to be resurrection capability, I'd rather it be a token to help spur tokens sales, instead of a spell.  

<br />I also feel tokens like Death's Door should be in short supply.  Hopefully it will stay out of print for at least a few more years.  I wouldn't mind not having any more resurrection tokens, it would add more of an element of danger to the Dungeons.  I wouldn't want a Resurrection spell for the Cleric, that seems too powerful, and really could lead to a "he only resurrected his friend" type of situation.  Plus - if there is to be resurrection capability, I'd rather it be a token to help spur tokens sales, instead of a spell.  <br />

<br /><br /><br />Here's the new token, just perfect for Gary!<br /><br />CLERIC-ONLY Token: Resurrect all other players (Druids are restored to full HP, everyone else at 1 HP    =D  ), all for the measly cost of the Cleric's life and *soul*. (Potion of Death's Door doesn't work since this token consumes the Cleric's soul. And Savior Stone is ineffective if you want the actual benefit of resurrecting others).<br /><br />I think this would make the Cleric especially powerful (and *everyone's* friend)! Whatcha think about this?