TOPIC: No Sunday Runs at GENCON 2017

Druegar wrote:

MasterED wrote: One thing that might help is if True Grind was available on Sunday.

Though that's an interesting idea, multiple logistical issues make that a non-starter.
#DreamCrusher

Man, I wanted to crush that dream!

There are a number of issues. Despite no props or costumes, you would have multiple combat boards, tables, chairs, walls to take down, dice, sliders, DM pouches, lights, wizard boards, etc.

The big issue would be that any volunteers doing TG runs on Sunday would not be available for teardown elsewhere.

bpsymington wrote:

Druegar wrote:

MasterED wrote: One thing that might help is if True Grind was available on Sunday.

Though that's an interesting idea, multiple logistical issues make that a non-starter.
#DreamCrusher

Man, I wanted to crush that dream!

There are a number of issues. Despite no props or costumes, you would have multiple combat boards, tables, chairs, walls to take down, dice, sliders, DM pouches, lights, wizard boards, etc.

The big issue would be that any volunteers doing TG runs on Sunday would not be available for teardown elsewhere.

TG doesn't traditionally use props or costumes - just the tables chairs and combat materials. Regarding any volunteers running not being able to tear down - the same problem exists volunteers can't run during their shift. If they are on tear down then they can't run.

To me this is a question of wanting or not wanting to offer it not of can't logistically.

We agree to disagree.

Ed

MasterED wrote: To me this is a question of wanting or not wanting to offer it not of can't logistically.

Your perspective is severely limited. You're only feeling one part of the elephant .

Druegar wrote:

MasterED wrote: To me this is a question of wanting or not wanting to offer it not of can't logistically.

Your perspective is severely limited. You're only feeling one part of the elephant .

Well put.

Considering the creativity of Eric's Grinds, I would like to see at least one done live, with an audience

I also want to express my severe disappointment at not having Sunday runs. I don't know why they were cancelled, but it was a terrible idea. My family always does a Sunday morning run and really enjoys it. This year we were completely shut out of a run, because the competition was so fierce that everything booked up before our queue time even came in event registration. Clearly there is demand for more runs, so why True Dungeon chooses not to offer them is beyond me. And it is very sad.

If the issue is volunteers, could you not just get more volunteers? Each volunteer works 2-3 days, so that they can all have 'time off' to enjoy the con? If the issue is having Riddle Reveal (which frankly will be useless to me since I can't get to play the run to see the riddles in the game itself) then can you still have TD runs on Sunday morning?

I know it's too late to change anything for this year, but I hope that you will reconsider and add Sunday runs back next year. It's hard enough getting 4 tickets in one timeslot; don't make it more difficult by taking away the timeslots that are easiest for families to obtain!

From what I heard, the issue was tear-down. It was a huge time crunch last year, and the sets are going to be even more structurally complex this year. So the crew needs all of Sunday to tear-down. Everything MUST be out and on the truck by the deadline.

Yes it is unfortunate for those who could only attend Sunday though.

Ed - I concur with your statement. We always held off on True Grind until Sunday... was a perfect way to end GENCON.

While I understand Jeff has his reasons. I still will say it's a heck of a loss for the community. To think of the extra hundred or so runs that could have been done, means more of a fight for the already limited number available. I've done Sunday runs because there was less of a fight for them. As many said, they were catching flights out.

Rebeg wrote: ...To think of the extra hundred or so runs that could have been done...

The runs weren't eliminated, they were just moved to later on the other three days. The total number of tickets didn't change.

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Rebeg wrote: ...To think of the extra hundred or so runs that could have been done...

The runs weren't eliminated, they were just moved to later on the other three days. The total number of tickets didn't change.

Exactly. It was the same number of runs. Just starting earlier and running later over 3 days and not 4

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Rebeg wrote: ...To think of the extra hundred or so runs that could have been done...

The runs weren't eliminated, they were just moved to later on the other three days. The total number of tickets didn't change.

Exactly. It was the same number of runs. Just starting earlier and running later over 3 days and not 4

Extra runs - means in addition to the runs on the first three days. We would love to have Sunday back, for us Sunday was great! Less competition for runs, since we stay until Monday.