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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #13

I agree with most of what was already mentioned. Additional points:<br /><br />- Not pleased to see 75 GP Amethyst, downgraded to an Uncommon. It used to be a Rare. Similarly, last year we had the 75 GP Blood Opal Charm. Hopefully this isn't a sign of continued inflation.<br /><br />- The damage wheel for the Darkwood Staff seems excessively overpowered. (In comparison, the Darkwood Longbow is comparable to the normal Longbow). A Quarterstaff is normally: 1-2-3-4-5-6, here we have 1-3-4-4-8-8. The only difference is that the Darkwood Staff is an Uncommon. But this seems problematic from my point of view.<br /><br />- Similarly, the Faerie-Iron Warhammer seems really really strong for a one-handed weapon. Definitely beats the Heavy Mace or Orcish Flail, especially for Clerics and Rangers. I'd say it's even better than the Long Sword. You get a slight edge in damage from all of the 5's, plus the conditional +3 against fey.<br /><br />- Another concern is the Iron Spear. Perhaps it was intended as an equalizer, for those that do not have access to the Masterwork Spear. But this is a *really* good one-handed weapon, perfect for the Druid or the Rogue. In some ways, it might be better than the Masterwork Spear. Masterwork has +1 damage normally, but the Iron version has +3 but only against fey.<br /><br />- The Trident seems comparable to the Bastard Sword, but the Kopis damage wheel is better than both of them.<br /><br />

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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #14

love the runestones. The runes on the toad and ferret runestones look the same to me, maybe need to swap the picture of one? <br /><br />Scrolls Hypnotic Pattern and Bless needs a classification (divine, arcane, all)<br /><br />There does seem to be a general increase in the AC achievable with uncommon armor-- all classes can now have +5 AC armor with uncommons. Is this intentional? <br /><br />I like that caps give everybody some headgear that they can use, as an alternative to the restricted helms. <br /><br />the 'edition' icon on the Iron Spear needs to be updated. <br /><br />While I do not oppose giving the monk some weapons, the monk is getting a lot of weapons to use. In fact, amongst common and uncommon weapons there is a bit of an imbalance. Some numbers:<br /><br />Usable by:<br /> all: 3x common and 1x uncommon (also the fireberries, 1 common and 1 uncommon)<br /> fighter: 6x common and 8x uncommon<br /> barbarian: 5x common and 6x uncommon<br /> paladin: 5x common and 4x uncommon<br /> ranger: 6x common and 3x uncommon<br /> monk: 4x common and 4x uncommon<br /> bard: 5x common and 2x uncommon<br /> rogue: 6x common and 2x uncommon<br /> druid: 3x common and 2x uncommon<br /> cleric: 0x common and 1x uncommon<br /> wizard: 2x common and 0x uncommon<br /><br />As shown by those numbers, the cleric is getting no loving this year. The wizard and the monk both have more weapons that they can use then the cleric does. You definitely need to bring back something equivalent to a heavy mace for the cleric.<br /><br />The monk, designed to fight bare-fisted, gets more weapons than the rogue, the bard, the druid, the cleric and the wizard (that does include the 2 shurikens, I will admit). <br /><br />The cleric needs a couple more common and uncommon weapons; the druid could use 1 more uncommon weapon, the rogue needs 1 more uncommon, and the bard could use 1 more uncommon weapon. <br /><br />As much as I like the halbred, I suggest replacing it with something usable by the cleric and druid (and maybe the bard). <br /><br /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br />
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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #15

<br /><snip><br />As shown by those numbers, the cleric is getting no loving this year. The wizard and the monk both have more weapons that they can use then the cleric does. You definitely need to bring back something equivalent to a heavy mace for the cleric.<br /><snip><br />The cleric needs a couple more common and uncommon weapons; the druid could use 1 more uncommon weapon, the rogue needs 1 more uncommon, and the bard could use 1 more uncommon weapon. <br /><br />As much as I like the halbred, I suggest replacing it with something usable by the cleric and druid (and maybe the bard). <br />

<br /><br />Yikes! I had no idea the Cleric was getting hardly any usable weapons this year. I second the motion to give the cleric something at this level.<br />
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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #16

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Cleric does have the staff just like everyone else..

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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #17

You should have made the famous monkey paw of discipline for the cleric. This is a blunt weapon in the form of an iron rod with a monkey's fist at the end. It is for use by clerics and others who disdain bloodshed but still want to hurt something. It can be imbued with a +1 ability for those that want a little more out of it. It makes a funny picture.
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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #18

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So the druid just have to possess/show the greater mistletoe when casting a damage spell?<br />
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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #19

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<br /><snip><br />As shown by those numbers, the cleric is getting no loving this year. The wizard and the monk both have more weapons that they can use then the cleric does. You definitely need to bring back something equivalent to a heavy mace for the cleric.<br /><snip><br />The cleric needs a couple more common and uncommon weapons; the druid could use 1 more uncommon weapon, the rogue needs 1 more uncommon, and the bard could use 1 more uncommon weapon. <br /><br />As much as I like the halbred, I suggest replacing it with something usable by the cleric and druid (and maybe the bard). <br />

<br /><br />Yikes! I had no idea the Cleric was getting hardly any usable weapons this year. I second the motion to give the cleric something at this level.<br /> <br />

<br /><br />I dunno - the Cleric had a bunch of stuff last year, and I see quite a few items that load up the arsenal!  <br /><br />Maybe one nice item...but only if something else has to go.
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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #20

The sling bullets of fire and frost look like donut holes covered with frosting to me. Maybe if they had some kind rune they would look better. Every thing else looks amazing.
5th level Monk<br />"If done right, no can defense"<br />STR:23   DEX:15  CON:16   INT:12  WIS:17  CHA:10                <br />HP:35   AC:16   SAVES: Fort:+14  Ref:+12  Will:+16 <br />Greater Flurry Melee: +1 Dragonfist Bracer/Quivering Bracer  Hit:+10/+9  Min Damage:14/13  Max Damage:19/20<br />Ranged Combat(thrown): +1 Keen Handaxe   Hit:+5 ...

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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #21

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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #22

Thank You Jeff for giving the Monk more options. I was getting tired of the default vanilla equipment. Im glad i get to make chocies now with equipment and use bracers that i dont have to fight with. Ignore all those "monks should'nt have equipment whiners" Thanks again!!!!<br /><br />I think monks will look sweet wearing Purple pimp hats  =D
5th level Monk<br />"If done right, no can defense"<br />STR:23   DEX:15  CON:16   INT:12  WIS:17  CHA:10                <br />HP:35   AC:16   SAVES: Fort:+14  Ref:+12  Will:+16 <br />Greater Flurry Melee: +1 Dragonfist Bracer/Quivering Bracer  Hit:+10/+9  Min Damage:14/13  Max Damage:19/20<br />Ranged Combat(thrown): +1 Keen Handaxe   Hit:+5 ...

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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #23

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Monks shouldn't have much equipment just like wizards shouldn't have swords and fighters shouldn't cast spells.

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Re: 2009 Uncommon Tokens -- Feedback please! 15 years 7 months ago #24

I agree with al the comments about armor.  There needs to be some differentiation.  2 are identical and the 3rd +5 armor makes the first two superfluous.

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