TOPIC: Could 2009 be the year of reprint?

<br />Bro, we had a Savior Stone burned on my final run, when our Wizard died from the snake bite and melted away to nothing.  <br />

<br /><br />oh yes - I had 4 with me ready to go...without a doubt SS is a great token, if you can get your hands on a bunch of them!

<br />I'm pretty sure I could find a pitchfork and some torches if I got a scroll of 'Fly' as an UR....<br />

<br /><br />I'm sort of surprised this spell has not ended up on a CHAR card - or re-made into a RED.<br /><br />I mean it has all sorts of cool uses in a dungeon...just like a duck!

I think FLY should be a red scroll, but I imagine that might bother some collectors.<br />

<br /><br />Burners and GP at the UR level will always be jinxed as the bottom of the heap.  Look at the hourglass for example.  I think there are so few of them out there it isn't funny.<br /><br />

<br /><br />Like to see GP, Gems and burners taken out of the UR level myself. Make those red. Only have one purple as it is, would have been a lot less fun if it ended up a gem or something. Have a Longsword +2 to trade for something else cool now.

The problem with fly is it's too useful. It probably borks or bypasses a lot of the puzzles and/or challenges of TD.  It's just like the old mage hand scroll, which I think was also a bad idea. There are too many instances where being able to move an object from place to place would likely be helpful in a puzzle situation. Its existence means that from now on when designing puzzles, someone would have to take into consideration the existence of that particular scroll. At least as a UR, it's rare and you feel that if someone completely bypasses a room using a UR burner, they've paid a bridge toll. It'd be sort of different if every single group had the red or green token that did the same.

Or you design the room to counter certain actions: the "silence" room...or even the "Key room" having the shere also be an anti-magic sphere...<br /><br />Personally, I'd like to see way more options as far as spells and scrolls go.  I think we have focused quite a bit on weapons and armor and turned a bit away from spells and scrolls.  Mage hand in my opinion was a very NICE addition.  Those kinds of things make us think about possible uses!  And this makes the game more fun, not less.

Which means you have to remember and constantly reaccess every old token to make sure it complies. that only gets harder the more tokens we have floating out there.

I think they sort of need to do that anyway, lest they forget something and have a broken room...???

Further development of spells and scrolls sounds like the right path to me. As I've said before, continuing enhancement of the non-fighter classes will grow TD in a more healthy and sustainable way as long as it is done thoughtfully. As for making sure that every token complies, editorial control always lies with the designer. When I asked why the chain lightning would effect the stirges but not the players they were attached to (some of whom are wearing lots of electrically-conducting metal), I was told by  forumites "because it says monster on the token" and  "that's why they call it magic". So you see, logical inconsistencies can be fixed with editorial control when it is deemed necessary. Seriously, it is better to build a logically consistent world, but a few inconsistencies should not hold TD back from expanding and enhancing the experience, especially for cool stuff like magic.

Well being the one that said, "because it is magic" I have to say that in D&D - there is logic and there is magic...there is an opportunity to make the results exactly as you want them and bend logic...or there are opportunities to play it totally logical.  I'm taking the Kirk stance and letting Spock and Bones debate, while I just sit back and say, "Isn't it nice to have a mix of both!"

Nicely said - as I noted, I prefer logic to prevail but sometimes you need to fix inconsistencies with editorial control. Logical shortcomings should not be allowed to hold things back. It is fantasy after all.

I think fly should not be a red. It simply breaks too many rooms. If it was a red, you could break half the dungeon, without breaking a sweat, for some burners.<br /><br /><br />