TOPIC: Bracelet of the Zephyr - Spells only or Scrolls and Spells

Certainly if scrolls are allowed, no if not.  I'm nothing close to being an official word, though - just my humble opinion.<br /><br />

In my opinion the bracelets give the wearer the Quicken ability. To me that means you can cast a "memorized spell" from the card and then as your standard action use another spell or read a scroll. So I would say you can use two spells or a spell and a scroll but not two scrolls. Just to add another layer of complexity to this =D!<br /><br />Lady Myke

It wouldn't really make sense for the effect to apply to scrolls.  I mean, I can understand being able to cast a memorized spell as a free action, but in order to cast a spell from a scroll, you need to find the scroll, pull it out, and read aloud from it.  Unless you can stop time, there's no way to make that a free action.  A memorized spell, however, can be cast with as little as a thought, a word, and a gesture.<br /><br />HOWEVER, I would rule that if the bracelets were combined with a belt of retrieval, you could use a scroll as your free action.  That's just me, though.<br /><br />Using a scroll as your standard action, and then a memorized spell as your free action, sounds perfectly okay, though.  Similarly, I'd imagine that making an attack with a weapon, and then using a spell as a free action would work, too.

My original intent was to have it enable the caster to memorize all scrolls in their posession, thus be able to cast any spell memorized or scroll as a free action.  Jeff felt it was too powerful, however.  I have not had time to discuss with him as we are in the throws of planning for the DC.  I will get a ruling and fix the references in the guide.<br /><br />Dave<br />

<br />In my opinion the bracelets give the wearer the Quicken ability. To me that means you can cast a "memorized spell" from the card and then as your standard action use another spell or read a scroll. So I would say you can use two spells or a spell and a scroll but not two scrolls. Just to add another layer of complexity to this =D!<br /><br />Lady Myke<br />

<br /><br />I think this is more of the way I had envisioned it.  Thank you for the insight.

Whatever you and Jeff decide is kewl with me.<br />

Ok, but can Bracelets of the Zephyr be used to cast 2 scroll or 1 scroll and 1 spell?  Or is it just 2 spells, end of story.<br /><br />Sorry but I have been watching for an answer to this question and still do not see this one as having been actually answered. Yes, Scrolls are not affected by anything except themselves. Period. But how does the Bracelets work? Has there been a definitive answer to this yet or have I missed it somehow?<br /><br />Lady Myke

<br />From the description in the Token Guide, it says "cast spell". The question is, is reading a scroll, in effect, casting a spell. My view is no... reading a scroll is releasing the final lynchpin of a spell which has been cast upon the item. If I were a DM (in a regular D&D group), and this item was available, my ruling would be that scrolls take extra time to unroll and read, and thus the bracelets don't help. But that is my opinion.<br />

The bracelets remind me of the belt of retrieval. I think it would make a lot of sense if they read something like "May cast a spell as a free action once per room." It brings the bracers more in line with the belt. If it was worded like this, you could use a scroll normally and then cast a spell from your spell list as a free action. (or cast 2 spells from your spell list or attack and cast a spell or.. or..) Anyway, maybe that would be more powerful than the original intent of the bracers, but it seems to me that the current spell lists aren't big enough to cast 2 of them in a single round more than once or twice in a dungeon run. I think a lot of people may opt for the +2 bracers of defense instead (those that have them at least). Just my 2GP.

Jeff has said the bracelets do NOT apply to scrolls - spells only.<br />

such a pity!<br /><br />Sarah, forget about the baby!