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TOPIC: Final 2023 treasure stats - year in review

Final 2023 treasure stats - year in review 3 months 1 week ago #25

I forgot that Gen Con had the additional Widseth's Legendary Lutes!

What's surprising is that they don't really show up in the stats. Gen Con is on the higher side of "Older Legendary" pulls, but not the highest. V15, V17 and V19 all had a higher percentage of older legendaries pulled. So, a couple thoughts on what's going on:
* we were unlucky and didn't pull them
* they went to players less deeply involved in the community and weren't reflected on the sheet

Hopefully the second option is what happened and some newer players got a nice surprise! :)

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Final 2023 treasure stats - year in review 3 months 1 week ago #26

Marc D wrote: I forgot that Gen Con had the additional Widseth's Legendary Lutes!

What's surprising is that they don't really show up in the stats. Gen Con is on the higher side of "Older Legendary" pulls, but not the highest. V15, V17 and V19 all had a higher percentage of older legendaries pulled. So, a couple thoughts on what's going on:
* we were unlucky and didn't pull them
* they went to players less deeply involved in the community and weren't reflected on the sheet

Hopefully the second option is what happened and some newer players got a nice surprise! :)


It doesn't strike me as surprising, but I haven't run any numbers.

My sense is that the percentage of all Gen Con treasure pulls that is logged in the sheets is probably miniscule, and trying to capture the impact of 10 tokens in the mix would require you to sample a substantially higher proportion.

Example: If 1% of Gen Con pulls are recorded in the sheet, the odds of drawing one of 10 special tokens in the sample size are ~10% - e.g. there is a 90% chance your sampled pulls in the sheet will not see a single special token.

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Final 2023 treasure stats - year in review 3 months 1 week ago #27

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Marc D wrote: I forgot that Gen Con had the additional Widseth's Legendary Lutes!

What's surprising is that they don't really show up in the stats. Gen Con is on the higher side of "Older Legendary" pulls, but not the highest. V15, V17 and V19 all had a higher percentage of older legendaries pulled. So, a couple thoughts on what's going on:
* we were unlucky and didn't pull them
* they went to players less deeply involved in the community and weren't reflected on the sheet

Hopefully the second option is what happened and some newer players got a nice surprise! :)


It doesn't strike me as surprising, but I haven't run any numbers.

My sense is that the percentage of all Gen Con treasure pulls that is logged in the sheets is probably miniscule, and trying to capture the impact of 10 tokens in the mix would require you to sample a substantially higher proportion.

Example: If 1% of Gen Con pulls are recorded in the sheet, the odds of drawing one of 10 special tokens in the sample size are ~10% - e.g. there is a 90% chance your sampled pulls in the sheet will not see a single special token.


This is what I was trying to say, but less directly :)

10 additional Legendary tokens is certainly juicing the mix since if there's, say, 5 normally that's a 200% increase. But given the sheer volume of treasure, that's likely a drop in the proverbial ocean.

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