TOPIC: Need some discipline: token trade/sale threads?

In my mind the three sub-forums should be used as follows:

Token Trades (Needs and Offers): one-time and/or transient posts looking for something. For example, if I'm looking for a Direwood Thorn or want to trade an UR for a different UR, I go there.

Token Auctions: for posting links to eBay auctions or holding forum auctions.

Token Stores: for permanent or ongoing token trading, where you will always have something you are looking to sell or trade. I think each store (player) should only have one post here.

I liked the idea of creating a Token Stores forum not only for my own store but also to make it easier to find other stores. But looking through the first page right now, Discount Dungeon has two separate threads (should be combined to one thread IMO), there are four threads from people trying to arrange group PYP purchases (should be done in the Token Trades forum IMO), Mike has two threads (although since he clearly separates out his Wooden Token Shop it makes sense to me), one person selling modules (should be Token Trades IMO), and one store that only buys tokens (debatable in my mind).

I'm not trying to offend anybody nor indicate that anybody is trying to break any rules because honestly there are no rules, but I'm wondering if as a community we can come up with some guidelines that we can follow and ideally even enforce a bit. I feel it would make it easier for people to find what they are looking for and/or subscribe to the subforums knowing the type of notifications they will receive.

Thoughts?

Not sure it matters. As long as any one person is only keeping one thread open at a time, and not bumping multiples. I mean, if anyone was trying to take over the first page with 20 threads, that would be rude.

But if you have one, lose track of it, and start a new one, I don't think it matters.

I don't even use the subforums. I just look at "recent posts" and open the ones I'm interested in.

I agree with you.

They should be more organized. I was planning on doing a PYP 2016 and some other things. And I was thinking how does this get organized. And I can only base which forums to use base on what I see veterans of this forum doing.

Just random idea's:

Maybe there should be a sub forum just for anything PYP's?

A sub forum for selling and a sub forum for buying?

I thought about moving my post to the store section, but I don't think I really have the inventory for it. I hope people don't mind me spamming the trade section with my thread because I'm always down to Trade!

it doesnt bother me..unless someone has 20 different threads for a store going...

Personally, I keep everything in one thread. I debated about posting a separate 'trade' thread in the other forum for things I was looking for, but since I was willing to take 'items' in trade for actual store inventory .. I just added to the bottom of my store thread front page.

I figure folks can do what they want, but also agree that some of the threads in there were a little out of place. More from a 'people aren't going to look here for that' perspective than anything.

Meh.

I keep two threads for two different sets of content/offers which don't intersect.

My store has persistent inventory of tokens, also I announce eBay auctions I run.

I have a "seasonal" store for 2016 preorders and PyPs.

I never "bump" things to put them on top, I only add actual content (although sometimes the content is pretty thin, like announcing 1 day left on eBay auctions).

When I was operating a Treasure Token buy/selling market, that was on a third thread.

If there is overwhelming support that me keeping 2 threads open is irritating I'll change my ways, otherwise keeping the distinct offers in distinct places I think makes it easier for people to engage with what they want and ignore the rest (e.g. if you want to see my 2016 PyP prices you can subscribe to my PyP post, and you won't get spammed with ~10 eBay announcements each month).

Kirk Bauer wrote: In my mind the three sub-forums should be used as follows:

Token Trades (Needs and Offers): one-time and/or transient posts looking for something. For example, if I'm looking for a Direwood Thorn or want to trade an UR for a different UR, I go there.

Token Auctions: for posting links to eBay auctions or holding forum auctions.

Token Stores: for permanent or ongoing token trading, where you will always have something you are looking to sell or trade. I think each store (player) should only have one post here.

I liked the idea of creating a Token Stores forum not only for my own store but also to make it easier to find other stores. But looking through the first page right now, Discount Dungeon has two separate threads (should be combined to one thread IMO), there are four threads from people trying to arrange group PYP purchases (should be done in the Token Trades forum IMO), Mike has two threads (although since he clearly separates out his Wooden Token Shop it makes sense to me), one person selling modules (should be Token Trades IMO), and one store that only buys tokens (debatable in my mind).

I'm not trying to offend anybody nor indicate that anybody is trying to break any rules because honestly there are no rules, but I'm wondering if as a community we can come up with some guidelines that we can follow and ideally even enforce a bit. I feel it would make it easier for people to find what they are looking for and/or subscribe to the subforums knowing the type of notifications they will receive.

Thoughts?

I agree with you, but that's probably because I am a little OCD!

Incognito wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote: In my mind the three sub-forums should be used as follows:

Token Trades (Needs and Offers): one-time and/or transient posts looking for something. For example, if I'm looking for a Direwood Thorn or want to trade an UR for a different UR, I go there.

Token Auctions: for posting links to eBay auctions or holding forum auctions.

Token Stores: for permanent or ongoing token trading, where you will always have something you are looking to sell or trade. I think each store (player) should only have one post here.

I liked the idea of creating a Token Stores forum not only for my own store but also to make it easier to find other stores. But looking through the first page right now, Discount Dungeon has two separate threads (should be combined to one thread IMO), there are four threads from people trying to arrange group PYP purchases (should be done in the Token Trades forum IMO), Mike has two threads (although since he clearly separates out his Wooden Token Shop it makes sense to me), one person selling modules (should be Token Trades IMO), and one store that only buys tokens (debatable in my mind).

I'm not trying to offend anybody nor indicate that anybody is trying to break any rules because honestly there are no rules, but I'm wondering if as a community we can come up with some guidelines that we can follow and ideally even enforce a bit. I feel it would make it easier for people to find what they are looking for and/or subscribe to the subforums knowing the type of notifications they will receive.

Thoughts?

I agree with you, but that's probably because I am a little OCD!

In other breaking news, grass has been found to be green and the sky has been discovered to be blue.

Joshua Baessler wrote:

Incognito wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote: In my mind the three sub-forums should be used as follows:

Token Trades (Needs and Offers): one-time and/or transient posts looking for something. For example, if I'm looking for a Direwood Thorn or want to trade an UR for a different UR, I go there.

Token Auctions: for posting links to eBay auctions or holding forum auctions.

Token Stores: for permanent or ongoing token trading, where you will always have something you are looking to sell or trade. I think each store (player) should only have one post here.

I liked the idea of creating a Token Stores forum not only for my own store but also to make it easier to find other stores. But looking through the first page right now, Discount Dungeon has two separate threads (should be combined to one thread IMO), there are four threads from people trying to arrange group PYP purchases (should be done in the Token Trades forum IMO), Mike has two threads (although since he clearly separates out his Wooden Token Shop it makes sense to me), one person selling modules (should be Token Trades IMO), and one store that only buys tokens (debatable in my mind).

I'm not trying to offend anybody nor indicate that anybody is trying to break any rules because honestly there are no rules, but I'm wondering if as a community we can come up with some guidelines that we can follow and ideally even enforce a bit. I feel it would make it easier for people to find what they are looking for and/or subscribe to the subforums knowing the type of notifications they will receive.

Thoughts?

I agree with you, but that's probably because I am a little OCD!

In other breaking news, grass has been found to be green and the sky has been discovered to be blue.

Depends on how you define "green" and "blue"!

I love this idea and wholeheartedly support it. But I don't understand exactly where I fit into it.

I have gotten to the point where I have several Ultra Rares I want to trade away for other Ultra Rares. Ideally, for inquiries generated by that thread, I don't want to give cash for the tokens I want or get cash for the tokens I have. I just want tokens for tokens. But I understand my wants won't always much up with someone else's haves once they have found some of my haves match their wants, so I would reluctantly do cash to help them get what they want at the end of the day, or to help even out a trade of tokens of unequal value if neither of us can do extra trade goods. So I included cash in the haves and wants so people don't feel forced out of that option, but didn't attach prices so people don't start thinking I primarily want cash.

Would an ongoing thread whose primary function is to avoid cash belong in the Token Store because only transient threads are welcome in Trade? Or would it belong in Trade because I don't want to deal in cash? Or Store because I am willing to deal in cash even if it is not preferred?

Maybe another sorting system between Trade and Store could be max number of tokens that you are selling/trading away and max number of tokens you are buying/trading for in Trade. So, if there is over 50 in either category, it is de facto Store.

Or maybe to keep with the time sensitivity sorting system, add a policy that all threads and posts that are not stickies and in the Trade Forum will be deleted after 2 months? That would more forcefully encourage people to sort themselves based on a transient offer versus a more permanent offer.

Anthony Barnstable wrote: I have gotten to the point where I have several Ultra Rares I want to trade away for other Ultra Rares. Ideally, for inquiries generated by that thread, I don't want to give cash for the tokens I want or get cash for the tokens I have. I just want tokens for tokens. But I understand my wants won't always much up with someone else's haves once they have found some of my haves match their wants, so I would reluctantly do cash to help them get what they want at the end of the day, or to help even out a trade of tokens of unequal value if neither of us can do extra trade goods. So I included cash in the haves and wants so people don't feel forced out of that option, but didn't attach prices so people don't start thinking I primarily want cash.

Good point!

The reason why I have shied away from posting in the Token Store subforum is that I have gotten the impression that "store" implies primarily monetary or GP transactions, whereas I am mainly interested in swapping tokens for other tokens.

In addition, it is primarily the "large token dealers" in the Store and there is slight concern about them crowding out the smaller dealers.