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TOPIC: UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond

UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #13

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Well...about 9 weeks ago I posted that we would be using 2021 UR's and other special tokens in the random treasure pulls for V4a. At the time, I was very sure we'd have the 2021 treasure tokens in stock by now. We do not have then, nor will it be in the next few weeks.

We just got word today that the 2021 treasure tokens should be here around the later end of March (fingers crossed) so that effects things greatly. I know I said the V4a treasure would have the 2021 UR's and other higher end goodies, but we need to amend that to V4a being the last event with all 2020 treasure tokens. The reason?

COVID has greatly changed things for us with regards to the quantity of help at TD HQ. We have been very careful -- especially since I need to see my 81-year old mom each day. And yet...guess who is in COVID quarantine in his basement for the next 8 days? I tested positive with a PCR test on Monday when all TD volunteers went to get a COVID test. Luckily, I am one of those folks with no symptoms, so don't worry I will be fine. John, Druegar and crew are doing a great job running VTD this weekend while Lori and I stay at home. (Lori and Avery are negative but still quarantined.)

However, this diagnosis has really re-enforced how important it is for us to carefully handle the receiving and processing of the tokens. Normally, we would have 12-15 high school kids come in for a weekend to help make Condensed and Super-Condensed packs -- as well as the enormous job of making the random treasure buckets. Even with all this help it normally takes us about a week to get everything ready before we can begin to ship out token pre-orders.

This year it will probably take us 2.5 weeks to prep the tokens given the safety procedures that will be in place. Only then can we start shipping out token pre-orders.

I am asking for your understanding with using all 2020 tokens for the V4a event treasure. By doing it this way, we can use the time before the tokens arrive to pre-package all the the V4a treasure into labelled boxes. That way all we have to do when the 2021 tokens arrive is to drop the owed V3b and V4a Participation tokens in the boxes -- and the ship them out. This will allow us to get caught up on the treasure shipments owed to players -- and it will allow us to get the 2021 token pre-orders out about a week ahead of time. We can also do more boxing prep work ahead of time for the token pre-orders once the owed treasure shipments are pre-packed and out of the way.

Thank you for your support and understanding. Y'all have been very understanding about the shipment delays, and your further consideration is very much appreciated. The prospect of 3.5 weeks of constant token prep is very daunting, and the week saved will be a godsend to us at this difficult time.

we all know it is not your fault(it is Lori). So yea we would never blame you for covid (it was Lori in her secret lab).


HAHAHAHAH that made me spit my coffee on my keyboard Laz.

Jeff,

VTD has been one of the only things myself and many others have to keep us tied to a bit of normal. You and all of the amazing volunteers don't need to apologize when your knocking it out of the park like you have. We should be singing your praise. My first clank of the mug on todays run will be raised hi to all of you in thanks.

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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #14

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Thanks for the update. Stay safe up there and the tokens will get here when they get here. If there's one thing this last 12 months has taught us, it's to have patience and grace with schedules.

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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #15

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for letting us know what's afoot. I'm very glad to hear that you are asymptomatic, and I hope the rest of your family all remain COVID-negative.

TD is a game I play for fun, and I'm very thankful to have VTD in my life this year regardless of what happens with treasure. And yet... I'm disappointed by this change, since I consciously bought more than my usual number of tickets for V4a in part because of the previously announced chance at 2021 UR+ draws. This won't be true for all players, but I personally would be very much happier to receive my draws as 2021 treasure in Maypril (or heck, even June) than as 2020 treasure. I would like to propose two different ideas for how this might still be accomplished without making things too crazy for TDHQ:

Idea 1: Swag Rollover

Allow players to opt in to rolling over their entire swag from V4a into V4b (or even V4c, if the extra time helps on your end). You don't ship me anything at all now, and when it comes time to make my swag box for V4b/V4c you simply increase the number of treasure draws and 10-packs accordingly. This makes me very happy, and as a side benefit saves TD the cost of shipping one medium box (since my swag usually comes in a medium box that's less than half full). It does involve a little bit of extra bookkeeping to track the deferred amounts and the different completion tokens.

Idea 2: Treasure Chips/Card

Allow players to opt in to replacing all their V4a treasure draws with either physical treasure chips OR a non-transferable card that says "Transmutable by David Zych for 147 V4a treasure draws from the VTD 2021 mix." You prepackage my V4a with survivor pin, XP card, 10-packs, and this card, and ship it to me as soon as the completion tokens arrive (as currently planned). Much later on, whenever you tell us you're ready (sometime AFTER preorders are complete), I send back the card in a transmute order, and you send me my treasure draws at that time along with whatever else I have ready to transmute by that point :). This doesn't save any money on shipping, but it also makes me very happy, and AFAICT represents only a minor departure from your current plan as you can still "close the books" on V4a sooner rather than later. Note that since the card is non-transferable, the transmute process can include verifying my name and the quantity against your V4a epilogue database to make sure I'm being honest.

I'm aware that not all players would share my preference, which is why both of my proposals are strictly opt-in; anyone who didn't opt in would still get V4a 2020 treasure ASAP as currently planned.

Thanks in advance for considering these ideas, and as always thank you for bringing us the joy and adventure of VTD in this difficult time!
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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #16

Thanks for the update, Jeff.
Above all and before all, stay safe and well.
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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #17

The most important thing is for everyone in TD HQ to stay safe and healthy. Tokens will arrive eventually. Thanks for the update!

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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #18

Jeff - be well and thanks for the update - 2020 treasure for v4a is fine, just stay safe.

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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #19

Jeff, please take all the time necessary to make sure everyone is safe through the process. Maybe use 2020 tokens for V4b as well, so you can stretch out the prep a bit more and have less stress on everyone?

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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #20

Jeff, thank you for the update. I'm sending good thoughts that you recover quickly without experiencing any symptoms, or if you do develop any symptoms that they stay mild and end fast. Also sending good wishes to all TD HQ staff and volunteers that no one else tests positive. This virus is sneaky and the sooner we are rid of it the better.

As for V4A treasure, I'm totally fine with whatever TD HQ wants to do. The past 12 months have been challenging for everyone in so many ways. I'm really glad that I still get to play some version of TD, but don't want to do that at the expense of the health or sanity of anyone else. Please put safety first.

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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #21

jeff,

take care of the personal stuff. tokens aren't that important. :blink:

seriously, if you need anything please let me know. your family and crew are in our thoughts and prayers.
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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #22

Take all the time you need. Your and your family's health, and the health of your volunteers and workers, is way more important than getting the 2021 tokens. They'll be just as awesome whenever they come in.

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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #23

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UPDATE! Clarification on Treasure for V4a and Beyond 2 months 2 weeks ago #24

I think the TD family is very understanding with everything this year Jeff.

Take care of yourself and your family, hope you stay well.

Thank you for all the hard work you and the TD works have done with all these harsh conditions.

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