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Brad Mortensen
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Fiddy wrote: Caleb M Davis wrote: Personally, I like the idea of making it a Token. Generic swag like pins or badge-holders can be cool, but they won't necessarily be for everyone. If I spent hundreds of dollars building myself a cosplay suit of cool looking platemail, then I probably don't want to slap a pin in it or cover it up with a lanyard. The one thing that we know every player has in common is that they enjoy playing True Dungeon, so lets stick with actual gameplay.
That being said, I'm opposed to flat, omni-present bonuses. No +1 Saves. No +2 Hit Points. It's not because they're overpowered or gamebreaking; it's more because they're a pain for the volunteers to sort through. Just look at the level 6 bonus. We have to present the Necklace token to prove that we're of level to reap our rewards; it's just too cumbersome to expect the volunteers to log in to accounts to verify each person's player level. A token that can be presented is the fastest, easiest way to approach it. So if there is going to be a bonus, then it should be put on a token.
After determining that it should be a token, there becomes a question of what it should do. Things like bonus stats or extra treasure might be nice, but I greatly prefer the idea of it being something more unique than that. Something simple, and something that isn't really redundant with available tokens.
Back in 2012, the Amulet of Wonder granted a fun ability. The player was turned into a Dwarf, granting them a couple hit points and a minor saving throw bonus, along with the ability to use any weapon with Dwarf or Dwarven in the name, regardless of their class. It was fun. It was silly. It felt thematic to the True Dungeon experience. "Ha Ha! I am the DWARF Cleric!"
In that spirit (and considering now that we actually have a couple of race options in the way of the Elf Wizard and Dwarf Fighter), I still like the idea of a Racial Token. Creating a Token with a Racial Identity, particularly one like "Half-Orc" or "Half-Elf" that could still be fully compatible with all classes. And I would particularly like them if they came with a +/- exchange, a pro-and-con, so that they might be good to use, or might be less than ideal, depending on your class, your build, your gear and your stats.
If there is only one such token, then having tradeoffs that may suck depending on your class seems like a bad idea to me. I also think it always feels weird to me when we have a race tacked on (like the random effect tokens have done a few times) when some classes that already have a race built into them. But I could see tacking on something like half-celestial or a similar template (half-demonic, vampiric, etc), as long as if we have tradeoffs that there is more than one template available.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of having the ability to adjust the race of your character. But I think we should do that as part of killing off the Dwarf and Elf classes at the same time. And having more than one option to adjust your race to be.
Agreed. In the last two years I’ve played Bard, Wiz, Monk, Cleric, Paladin, and Fighter. Don’t force me to pick one “optimal” race for my class, because there isn’t one.
And I don’t like tokens for this sort of thing because they’re easily sold or loaned out, unless they’re soulbound somehow with individuals’ names printed on them to prevent shenanigans. And the cooler the effect, the more vital this becomes.
But it’s all moot. I was thinking this morning how Buddha said desire is the root of suffering. It seems to me that, based on previous posts, Jeff has already decided on the award. I know he always listens to input, but he doesn’t always take it.
There’s no harm in suggesting all kinds of things, but the more we get our hopes up with outlandish suggestions the more disappointed we may be with the final result. He may reject them all as too complicated or too much work to design and manage. Knowing him, it’ll be something he thinks will be cool and manageable. Don’t be so quick to say “this or that would be so lame” because that may be exactly what we end up with, and now you’ll be miserable.
So let’s try not to grumble when he announces whatever, if anything, it turns out to be. He honestly doesn’t owe us anything.
"Ceci n'est pas une pipe" - Magritte
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