TOPIC: NEWEST! Rules on Treasure Enhancers & "Ghosting"

If I am reading this correctly, this means if I have bought out an entire ten ticket run, my friends (assuming I still have any) can still meet in coaching room to get their ticket (and return to get wrist band and ten-pack).

Once we go to training room, that is the official start and there is no entering without wrist and nor leaving...

Correct? (Mainly on still meeting people in coaching roo to give them their ticket)

Reading jeffs post carefully, it doesn't clarify if EVERYONE puts their tokens on pedastole at once or not, only that the coach will verify the players one at a time...

Or am I missing something? If it isn't "put TE tokens on pedastole at same time" then an unscrupulous player could get verified and then "palm" their TE's to another player within same group.

Mongo wrote: Reading jeffs post carefully, it doesn't clarify if EVERYONE puts their tokens on pedastole at once or not, only that the coach will verify the players one at a time...

Or am I missing something? If it isn't "put TE tokens on pedastole at same time" then an unscrupulous player could get verified and then "palm" their TE's to another player within same group.

Perhaps the pedestal will contain a spot for each class. Maybe the spot could be a slot or a lowered area/depression (I'm sure there is a carpentry term for that) to reduce the likelihood of a token sliding off.

I agree with Jeff's thought that the parties with the most TE tokens would likely need the least training.

Jeff Martin wrote:
...If you really want all the cool Treasure Chips and Participation tokens, find some newbies to go on runs with you and give them your tickets. Maybe they will hand over their earned Treasure Chips and Participation tokens as a thank you.

This is a great and subtle nudge to get us all to help expand our player base. (Which benefits all of us in the end.) In fact, it's the same way I started playing ten years ago...but they let me keep the treasure too.

bpsymington wrote: Perhaps the pedestal will contain a spot for each class. Maybe the spot could be a slot or a lowered area/depression (I'm sure there is a carpentry term for that) to reduce the likelihood of a token sliding off.

Multiple spots per class of course, as there are quite a few possible combinations of TEs players could be utilizing and that number will only grow in the years that follow as we add more Ioun Stone Nugget TEs. This could definitely be a cool prop addition to the room. For some reason, I keep picturing the Voltron pilots inserting their keys...yes, I know this is completely impractical.

I'm assuming that they will be check in coaching room and training room? If not how to prevent someone for equipping amulet of hero in coaching and then showing amulet of treasure finding in training room?

GaryM wrote: I'm assuming that they will be check in coaching room and training room? If not how to prevent someone for equipping amulet of hero in coaching and then showing amulet of treasure finding in training room?

I imagine the coach will still fill out the total treasure (and perhaps which TE tokens you equip), but will not verify the tokens; so you can just show the app to coach. Bit then in training room, the trainer will verify physical tokens matched up with what is on the party card.

kurtreznor wrote:

GaryM wrote: I'm assuming that they will be check in coaching room and training room? If not how to prevent someone for equipping amulet of hero in coaching and then showing amulet of treasure finding in training room?

I imagine the coach will still fill out the total treasure (and perhaps which TE tokens you equip), but will not verify the tokens; so you can just show the app to coach. Bit then in training room, the trainer will verify physical tokens matched up with what is on the party card.

If a player claims treasure they don't deserve, they're defrauding TD and committing a crime. It's theft.

If they claim character stats they don't deserve, they're not hurting TD. They're just cheaters.

kurtreznor wrote:

GaryM wrote: I'm assuming that they will be check in coaching room and training room? If not how to prevent someone for equipping amulet of hero in coaching and then showing amulet of treasure finding in training room?

I imagine the coach will still fill out the total treasure (and perhaps which TE tokens you equip), but will not verify the tokens; so you can just show the app to coach. Bit then in training room, the trainer will verify physical tokens matched up with what is on the party card.

Per Jeff's original post it sounds like coaches won't record it at all:

Once the Trainer has verified their TE tokens are real, the total of earned Treasure Chips will be recorded on the Party Card for that character.

Brad Mortensen wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

GaryM wrote: I'm assuming that they will be check in coaching room and training room? If not how to prevent someone for equipping amulet of hero in coaching and then showing amulet of treasure finding in training room?

I imagine the coach will still fill out the total treasure (and perhaps which TE tokens you equip), but will not verify the tokens; so you can just show the app to coach. Bit then in training room, the trainer will verify physical tokens matched up with what is on the party card.

If a player claims treasure they don't deserve, they're defrauding TD and committing a crime. It's theft.

If they claim character stats they don't deserve, they're not hurting TD. They're just cheaters.

There have been cases where player coaches or epilogue volunteers make mistakes and TD doesn't give players the treasure they deserve. In that case, is TD defrauding the players and committing a crime (theft)?

How does the "proof" of 6th level fit into this?

Incognito wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

GaryM wrote: I'm assuming that they will be check in coaching room and training room? If not how to prevent someone for equipping amulet of hero in coaching and then showing amulet of treasure finding in training room?

I imagine the coach will still fill out the total treasure (and perhaps which TE tokens you equip), but will not verify the tokens; so you can just show the app to coach. Bit then in training room, the trainer will verify physical tokens matched up with what is on the party card.

If a player claims treasure they don't deserve, they're defrauding TD and committing a crime. It's theft.

If they claim character stats they don't deserve, they're not hurting TD. They're just cheaters.

There have been cases where player coaches or epilogue volunteers make mistakes and TD doesn't give players the treasure they deserve. In that case, is TD defrauding the players and committing a crime (theft)?

If they were "mistakes," then of course not.

Brad Mortensen wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

GaryM wrote: I'm assuming that they will be check in coaching room and training room? If not how to prevent someone for equipping amulet of hero in coaching and then showing amulet of treasure finding in training room?

I imagine the coach will still fill out the total treasure (and perhaps which TE tokens you equip), but will not verify the tokens; so you can just show the app to coach. Bit then in training room, the trainer will verify physical tokens matched up with what is on the party card.

If a player claims treasure they don't deserve, they're defrauding TD and committing a crime. It's theft.

If they claim character stats they don't deserve, they're not hurting TD. They're just cheaters.

Back in the old days of Completion tokens (instead of modern day Participation tokens), would you say that cheaters were then defrauding TD?

Back when we had Treasure Stamps, would cheating with character stats be defrauding TD?

Even now with no Treasure Stamps, there still are Survivor Pins. So would cheaters be defrauding TD of pins?