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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #37

Just noticed. Isnt the damage quite low for a 2 handed weapon for the +2 Death flail?

Same with +1 nether knocker?

Shouldn't bogling sling be 1-4?

Haven mace 1-8?
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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #38

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Just noticed. Isnt the damage quite low for a 2 handed weapon for the +2 Death flail?

Same with +1 nether knocker?

Shouldn't bogling sling be 1-4?

Haven mace 1-8?


UR ideal average damage (upper bound) is 8 for a 2 handed melee weapon. The +2 Death Fail is exactly 8.

+1 Nether Knocker is 4 average damage for a 1 handed Rare. It is low because all classes can use it.

Bogling Sling is high but I am guessing TPTB liked it that way due to no real thematic damage this year.

I am assuming you are talking about Haven Clash Mace (common) - average damage of 4.6 for 2 handed common select classes. It is right on target because the Cleric and Druid can use it (it is lower then upper average).

I try to watch them but there are so many - thanks for keeping me honest!

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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #39

MasterED wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Just noticed. Isnt the damage quite low for a 2 handed weapon for the +2 Death flail?

Same with +1 nether knocker?

Shouldn't bogling sling be 1-4?

Haven mace 1-8?


UR ideal average damage (upper bound) is 8 for a 2 handed melee weapon. The +2 Death Fail is exactly 8.

+1 Nether Knocker is 4 average damage for a 1 handed Rare. It is low because all classes can use it.

Bogling Sling is high but I am guessing TPTB liked it that way due to no real thematic damage this year.

I am assuming you are talking about Haven Clash Mace (common) - average damage of 4.6 for 2 handed common select classes. It is right on target because the Cleric and Druid can use it (it is lower then upper average).

I try to watch them but there are so many - thanks for keeping me honest!

Ed


Asked and answered. Thanks for the info!
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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #40

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

MasterED wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Just noticed. Isnt the damage quite low for a 2 handed weapon for the +2 Death flail?

Same with +1 nether knocker?

Shouldn't bogling sling be 1-4?

Haven mace 1-8?


UR ideal average damage (upper bound) is 8 for a 2 handed melee weapon. The +2 Death Fail is exactly 8.

+1 Nether Knocker is 4 average damage for a 1 handed Rare. It is low because all classes can use it.

Bogling Sling is high but I am guessing TPTB liked it that way due to no real thematic damage this year.

I am assuming you are talking about Haven Clash Mace (common) - average damage of 4.6 for 2 handed common select classes. It is right on target because the Cleric and Druid can use it (it is lower then upper average).

I try to watch them but there are so many - thanks for keeping me honest!

Ed


Asked and answered. Thanks for the info!

Your welcome.

Just reading your signature...

First ever death in True Horde
"Well, with you guarding 2 players, that means you take 90. Are you dead?"
-Incognito

Now, it should be..."NO, I use my (new) Cloak of Shadowskin!"

Ed
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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #41

MasterED wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

MasterED wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Just noticed. Isnt the damage quite low for a 2 handed weapon for the +2 Death flail?

Same with +1 nether knocker?

Shouldn't bogling sling be 1-4?

Haven mace 1-8?


UR ideal average damage (upper bound) is 8 for a 2 handed melee weapon. The +2 Death Fail is exactly 8.

+1 Nether Knocker is 4 average damage for a 1 handed Rare. It is low because all classes can use it.

Bogling Sling is high but I am guessing TPTB liked it that way due to no real thematic damage this year.

I am assuming you are talking about Haven Clash Mace (common) - average damage of 4.6 for 2 handed common select classes. It is right on target because the Cleric and Druid can use it (it is lower then upper average).

I try to watch them but there are so many - thanks for keeping me honest!

Ed


Asked and answered. Thanks for the info!

Your welcome.

Just reading your signature...

First ever death in True Horde
"Well, with you guarding 2 players, that means you take 90. Are you dead?"
-Incognito

Now, it should be..."NO, I use my (new) Cloak of Shadowskin!"

Ed


Would that defend 30 or all 90?
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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #42

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

MasterED wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

MasterED wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Just noticed. Isnt the damage quite low for a 2 handed weapon for the +2 Death flail?

Same with +1 nether knocker?

Shouldn't bogling sling be 1-4?

Haven mace 1-8?


UR ideal average damage (upper bound) is 8 for a 2 handed melee weapon. The +2 Death Fail is exactly 8.

+1 Nether Knocker is 4 average damage for a 1 handed Rare. It is low because all classes can use it.

Bogling Sling is high but I am guessing TPTB liked it that way due to no real thematic damage this year.

I am assuming you are talking about Haven Clash Mace (common) - average damage of 4.6 for 2 handed common select classes. It is right on target because the Cleric and Druid can use it (it is lower then upper average).

I try to watch them but there are so many - thanks for keeping me honest!

Ed


Asked and answered. Thanks for the info!

Your welcome.

Just reading your signature...

First ever death in True Horde
"Well, with you guarding 2 players, that means you take 90. Are you dead?"
-Incognito

Now, it should be..."NO, I use my (new) Cloak of Shadowskin!"

Ed


Would that defend 30 or all 90?


Surely you had more than 60 HP?
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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #43

Harlax wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

MasterED wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

MasterED wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Just noticed. Isnt the damage quite low for a 2 handed weapon for the +2 Death flail?

Same with +1 nether knocker?

Shouldn't bogling sling be 1-4?

Haven mace 1-8?


UR ideal average damage (upper bound) is 8 for a 2 handed melee weapon. The +2 Death Fail is exactly 8.

+1 Nether Knocker is 4 average damage for a 1 handed Rare. It is low because all classes can use it.

Bogling Sling is high but I am guessing TPTB liked it that way due to no real thematic damage this year.

I am assuming you are talking about Haven Clash Mace (common) - average damage of 4.6 for 2 handed common select classes. It is right on target because the Cleric and Druid can use it (it is lower then upper average).

I try to watch them but there are so many - thanks for keeping me honest!

Ed


Asked and answered. Thanks for the info!

Your welcome.

Just reading your signature...

First ever death in True Horde
"Well, with you guarding 2 players, that means you take 90. Are you dead?"
-Incognito

Now, it should be..."NO, I use my (new) Cloak of Shadowskin!"

Ed


Would that defend 30 or all 90?


Surely you had more than 60 HP?


With full synergy I would assume so.

I honestly have no idea.
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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #44

Darn it - should Earcuff of Sonic Splendor have a list of allowed classes?

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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #45

Had a question about the whetstone.

It says "Rare Weapons". Does this include bracers for the monk? Or would bracers not be considered "weapons"

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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #46

Amorgen Burke wrote: Had a question about the whetstone.

It says "Rare Weapons". Does this include bracers for the monk? Or would bracers not be considered "weapons"

My opinion - if it has a damage wheel and you equip it, it is a weapon. Consumables that are thrown are not equipped. Just my opinion though.

Ed
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+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #47

MasterED wrote:

Amorgen Burke wrote: Had a question about the whetstone.

It says "Rare Weapons". Does this include bracers for the monk? Or would bracers not be considered "weapons"

My opinion - if it has a damage wheel and you equip it, it is a weapon. Consumables that are thrown are not equipped. Just my opinion though.

Ed


I'd make it simpler:

If it transmutes to Aragonite and has a damage wheel: Weapon

Elven Bismuth: Weapon

Dwarven Steel: Weapon

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Last edit: by Matthew Hayward.

+5 Final Token Proof Sheets 5 years 7 months ago #48

Matthew Hayward wrote:

MasterED wrote:

Amorgen Burke wrote: Had a question about the whetstone.

It says "Rare Weapons". Does this include bracers for the monk? Or would bracers not be considered "weapons"

My opinion - if it has a damage wheel and you equip it, it is a weapon. Consumables that are thrown are not equipped. Just my opinion though.

Ed


I'd make it simpler:

If it transmutes to Aragonite and has a damage wheel: Weapon

Elven Bismuth: Weapon

Dwarven Steel: Weapon


Sounds like the 2 of you differ here.

For what it's worth,

tokendb.com/token/flask-of-conflagration/

And


tokendb.com/token/orb-of-acid/

Are listed as weapons. I wouldn't have guessed.
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