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TOPIC: QTR 2021 Beta

QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #349

I don't think anyone is asking for non-damage spells to get that bonus, or expects them to. The wording in the QTR currently says "all spells" though, not all damage spells. It should be changed slightly for maximum clarity.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #350

Right before the change tokens that affected spell damage didn't need it specifically spelled out that they only affected damage dealing spells.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #351

Most tokens do specify damage spells or healing spells. This isn't a comprehensive sample, just the first two that I thought to check.

tokendb.com/token/lenses-of-focus/
tokendb.com/token/3-staff-of-focus/
tokendb.com/token/ioun-stone-banshee-prism/
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #352

So are you attempting to suggest the following tokens did damage on non-damage spells before the change because they don't say damage spells and just say spells?

tokendb.com/damage-bonus/spell/
Arcane Belt
Arcane Lenses
Blessed Tempest Gloves
Bracelets of Boosting
Ring of Jealous Fervor
Ring of the Drake
Shaman’s Arcane Hat
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #353

Not at all. Just that the vast majority of tokens did specify damage spells, and that it really isn't that big a deal to add a word to the QTR for clarity and consistency's sake.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #354

Druegar wrote:

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote: Just to be clear, do FoP Horror and Reaver allow for one token from V1a and another from V1b?
Or will it need to be one from V1a or V1b, one from V2a or V2b, etc?

For FoP: Horror, as long as all five tokens have different names and all five are completion tokens from V1-V5, they're eligible.
Same thing for FoP: Reaver, except they all need to be Rare completion tokens.

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote: Would it be easier to list them separately?

Yes, and eventually it will be listed that way--but not in the 2021 QTR. Reason being I'm not certain all those participation tokens have been made public. If they have been made public and you can link to a source, I'll change it.


Honestly, I am a little confused on which tokens are completion tokens to count for this? Can we list them all by name instead? I know if I am confused, even newer players are very likely to be confused.

Can I use Greaves of Grounding? Shirt of Shielding?
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #355

Anthony Barnstable wrote: Can I use Greaves of Grounding? Shirt of Shielding?

Greaves of Grounding is not a completion token.
tokendb.com/token/greaves-of-grounding/
Source: Treasure Chest


Shirt of Shielding
tokendb.com/token/shirt-of-shielding-2020/
Source: Completion
However it has not YET been revealed as a V series completion token (it might be at a later point).

Revealed Completion V series tokens thus far are:
V1a Charm of Good Health (R) Charm of Fair Health (U)
V1b Boots of Bolting (R) Sandals of Sidestepping (U)
V2a Gloves of Retrieval (R) Hat of Minor Retrieval(U)
V2b Ioun Stone Jasper Ellipsoid (R) Ioun Stone Jasper Prism (U)
V3a Bracers of the Tavernkeeper (R) Bracers of the Tavern (U)
V3b Belt of the Brave (R) Boots of the Bold (U)
V4a Unknown at this time
V4b Unknown at this time
V5a Unknown at this time
V5b Uknown at this time

If I made any errors please let me know.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #356

TD Database has tokens that are used for transmutes linked/denoted under the individual tokens.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #357

edwin wrote: TD Database has tokens that are used for transmutes linked/denoted under the individual tokens.

True but it doesn't have anything for the 2020 completion tokens or the Reaver yet. Obviously it doesn't have the 2021 tokens.

Based on what Dreugar said I don't think we will know the V4 and V5 tokens till Jeff announces them. They could be 4 of the 5 2020 completion tokens or they could be 2021 completion tokens.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #358

The Reaver and Horror costs gold now? Grrrr... That wasn't on the receipe from Jeff...
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #359

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Matt wrote: That doesn't say damage spells, unless i knew otherwise that to me would imply it covers healing spells,

It will be clearer in the next update.

I gladly concede that clarity is beneficial. That said, I can't help but wonder what kind of DM would interpret, "Any bonus to Ranged damage now includes all Spells cast from your class card." to mean healing spells now cause damage.
Wizard: Hey cleric, I'm down to 5 HP. Can you throw me a heal? The BBEG is almost dead, so a small heal is fine.
Cleric: You got it buddy. {Cure Minor Wounds}
DM: The cleric's Cure Minor Wounds spell healed you for 1, but because the cleric also has a +10 to Spell damage, you netted 9 damage. Since you only had 8 HP before the cleric cast the heal, you're dead.
Have you looked it up in the TDb ?
Please post TDb corrections in this thread .
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #360

Druegar wrote:

Matt wrote: That doesn't say damage spells, unless i knew otherwise that to me would imply it covers healing spells,

It will be clearer in the next update.

I gladly concede that clarity is beneficial. That said, I can't help but wonder what kind of DM would interpret, "Any bonus to Ranged damage now includes all Spells cast from your class card." to mean healing spells now cause damage.
Wizard: Hey cleric, I'm down to 5 HP. Can you throw me a heal? The BBEG is almost dead, so a small heal is fine.
Cleric: You got it buddy. {Cure Minor Wounds}
DM: The cleric's Cure Minor Wounds spell healed you for 1, but because the cleric also has a +10 to Spell damage, you netted 9 damage. Since you only had 8 HP before the cleric cast the heal, you're dead.


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