TOPIC: QTR 2021 Beta

Druegar wrote:

Arnold wrote: The Volunteer tokens read:
"+5 to max hps" & "+3 to max hps"
But IS Sunstone Shard and IS Elfstone Shard read:
"+5 to max hps" & "+10 to max hps"
I assume it's just a typo and too late to fix.

That ship sailed a couple months ago.

I totally got the text of Sunstone and Elfstone incorrectly (damn copy pasting), but I'm glad you got the idea.

In my thoughts

Ashenne's
Psyferre's
Charm of the Faerie

Druegars
Ring of the Siren
Ring of Expertise

Swap as necessary.

If Psyferre didn't need to be with Ashenne's, this would be easier.

Fiddy wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote: Could we add Ioun Stone Charoite Cuboid or Ioun Stone Sunstone Shard to the Ioun Stone Elfstone Shard recipe?

great idea!

I assume we're talking about as an alternative recipe?

I was assuming like several of the other relics that include +2 Holy Avenger or +2 Holy Greatsword

One or the other Ioun stone, not requiring both.

Though, a 3rd recipie with both and very few trade goods would also be awesome.

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote: If Psyferre didn't need to be with Ashenne's, this would be easier.

I seem to recall Ashenne referring to Psyferre as a blowhard in one module... are we sure their tokens have to go together?

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote: Could we add Ioun Stone Charoite Cuboid or Ioun Stone Sunstone Shard to the Ioun Stone Elfstone Shard recipe?

Fiddy wrote: I assume we're talking about as an alternative recipe?

It'll be like how the recipe for +3 Holy Avenger says:
• +2 Holy Avenger or +2 Holy Great Sword

Druegar wrote:

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote: Could we add Ioun Stone Charoite Cuboid or Ioun Stone Sunstone Shard to the Ioun Stone Elfstone Shard recipe?

Fiddy wrote: I assume we're talking about as an alternative recipe?

It'll be like how the recipe for +3 Holy Avenger says:
• +2 Holy Avenger or +2 Holy Great Sword

What about an option for both, plus a small amount of trade goods?

Druegar wrote:

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote: Could we add Ioun Stone Charoite Cuboid or Ioun Stone Sunstone Shard to the Ioun Stone Elfstone Shard recipe?

Fiddy wrote: I assume we're talking about as an alternative recipe?

It'll be like how the recipe for +3 Holy Avenger says:
• +2 Holy Avenger or +2 Holy Great Sword

I assumed that was the intent. I was asking to verify, since Wade said "add" to the recipe, rather than saying "as an alternative".

jedibcg vuvuzela hater wrote: Shirt of the Elder seems expensive for 2 MB for a +3 Will Save. There are rares (Bead of Cleric's Piety, Charm of Enlightment, Crown of Iron Will, Ring of Iron Will) that provide +4 and 1 rare that does a +3 (Earcuff of Enlightenment). I think the power is fine just the cost of 2 MB seems high compared to other 3 point transmutes. I could not find a single 3 point transmute requiring 2 MB.

+1 to this. The two MB requirement seems high here.

If there needs to be an additional cost after the removal of the second bit, perhaps 250 GP would be appropriate? My thought is that would be 1 each of the Uncommon GP tokens in 2021.

If possible, I'd like to get these recipes (and the QTR as a whole) settled today or at the very latest, tomorrow. I've got other stuff I need to attend to.

On the 4* recipes:
Thank you for the addition of the monster trophies as alternates to the 1,000 GP bar. Those recipes seem good now!

jedibcg vuvuzela hater wrote: Shirt of the Elder seems expensive for 2 MB for a +3 Will Save.

For several minutes, I alt-tabbed back and forth between your post and the recipe because I was trying to decipher what an "MB" was. I thought it was a typo of MS (Mystic Silk), but the recipe only has 1 MS and didn't think that was what you meant. Then, FINALLY, it dawned on me! 🤦‍♂️
I agree, 2 monster trophies is too much. It's been changed to 1.

Marc D wrote:

jedibcg vuvuzela hater wrote: Shirt of the Elder seems expensive for 2 MB for a +3 Will Save. There are rares (Bead of Cleric's Piety, Charm of Enlightment, Crown of Iron Will, Ring of Iron Will) that provide +4 and 1 rare that does a +3 (Earcuff of Enlightenment). I think the power is fine just the cost of 2 MB seems high compared to other 3 point transmutes. I could not find a single 3 point transmute requiring 2 MB.

+1 to this. The two MB requirement seems high here.

If there needs to be an additional cost after the removal of the second bit, perhaps 250 GP would be appropriate? My thought is that would be 1 each of the Uncommon GP tokens in 2021.

How about removing the monster bits completely and replacing them with something like 10 Mystic Silk? Or have an alternate "just silk" recipe. We could use a good Mystic Silk sink.