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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #217

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Druegar wrote: Wade: I'm not aware of any plans for a 4C token at this time.

Dergidan wrote: That's too bad... The 4C recipes are my favorite thing to collect treasure for by far.

[Warning! The following text is an opinion, not a declaration of certainty.]
I think it's likely we'll do another 4C someday. We're simply not doing one right now.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #218

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Anthony Barnstable wrote: Amulet of Noble Might:
I thought there was going to be an option to use Medallion of Sweetwoods, Stu-Pendous Pendant, or Amulet of the Champion?

Can you point to a source for that?
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #219

Druegar wrote:

Druegar wrote: Wade: I'm not aware of any plans for a 4C token at this time.

Dergidan wrote: That's too bad... The 4C recipes are my favorite thing to collect treasure for by far.

[Warning! The following text is an opinion, not a declaration of certainty.]
I think it's likely we'll do another 4C someday. We're simply not doing one right now.


Sweet. This sounds very definitive. Thank you for clearing up that this year's bits will not go towards a 4C.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #220

Druegar wrote:

Druegar wrote: Wade: I'm not aware of any plans for a 4C token at this time.

Dergidan wrote: That's too bad... The 4C recipes are my favorite thing to collect treasure for by far.

[Warning! The following text is an opinion, not a declaration of certainty.]
I think it's likely we'll do another 4C someday. We're simply not doing one right now.


I hate that the reminder text here is necessary.

TPTB changed their minds should be enough

I realize that is unlikely to be a popular opinion.

Endgame wrote: I’d prefer to see the shield pulled out of the transmute and replaced by charm of the faerie or psyferre’s , both of which are likely to be less popular overall. That should leave more shields around long term for people to pickup.


I think Psyferre's may be the 2nd most popular UR (after ISPN). Maybe 3rd with Cranston's.

Regardless, I agree with you on Shield of the Scholar being popular. I already expressed my desire to use Charm of the Faerie, mostly because new players who pull one would be more able to trade it for things they can use if it is a legendary recipie.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #221

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I find the general ambivalence towards Psyferre's Spectacles and the intense interest for Figurine of Power: Reaver fascinating. PS deals 50% more damage, the damage is type-less (thus probably not resistible), and openes up another item slot.

Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with someone liking what they like. I just find it curious.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #222

Druegar wrote: I find the general ambivalence towards Psyferre's Spectacles and the intense interest for Figurine of Power: Reaver fascinating. PS deals 50% more damage, the damage is type-less (thus probably not resistible), and openes up another item slot.

Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with someone liking what they like. I just find it curious.


I dont think anyone is ambivalent about Psyferre's. I do think that when it became a free action rather than instantaneous it became less usable by some classes, and therefore generally less desirable.

I'm definitely still in the market for a few of them.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #223

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

Druegar wrote: I find the general ambivalence towards Psyferre's Spectacles and the intense interest for Figurine of Power: Reaver fascinating. PS deals 50% more damage, the damage is type-less (thus probably not resistible), and openes up another item slot.

Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with someone liking what they like. I just find it curious.


I dont think anyone is ambivalent about Psyferre's. I do think that when it became a free action rather than instantaneous it became less usable by some classes, and therefore generally less desirable.

I'm definitely still in the market for a few of them.


This.

For wizards, M/AM powers use a free action. RoSS uses a free action. Cabal uses a free action. There really aren't any free actions left for Psyferre's until you get to round 4 of combat. The extra figurine is nice, but I can already equip two, so not sure a 3rd figurine is worth the cost of an UR.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #224

Druegar wrote: I find the general ambivalence towards Psyferre's Spectacles and the intense interest for Figurine of Power: Reaver fascinating. PS deals 50% more damage, the damage is type-less (thus probably not resistible), and openes up another item slot.

Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with someone liking what they like. I just find it curious.


It doesn't seem that strange to me. For PS you're giving up an Eye slot that (depending on what you've equipped) likely has a benefit you can use every round of combat in exchange for two 1/game actions. Even if both wind up being guaranteed damage actions, many would not make the trade.

For Reaver, you're trading away a different figurine with 1/game action that you may or may not be able to use every run to a 1/game action you can use every run and deal guaranteed damage (assuming at least one combat isn't immune to the damage type).

So Reaver being more popular than PS makes sense to me in that context. Different people may have different contexts though.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #225

Arnold wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Druegar wrote: Wade: I'm not aware of any plans for a 4C token at this time.

Dergidan wrote: That's too bad... The 4C recipes are my favorite thing to collect treasure for by far.

[Warning! The following text is an opinion, not a declaration of certainty.]
I think it's likely we'll do another 4C someday. We're simply not doing one right now.


Sweet. This sounds very definitive. Thank you for clearing up that this year's bits will not go towards a 4C.


But - did that really clear up that this year's bits aren't going towards a 4C token? It sounded like Druegar is just saying there won't be a 4C token this year. Doing another someday could mean doing one in 3-4 years that includes this year's monster tokens as part of the recipe.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #226

Druegar wrote: I find the general ambivalence towards Psyferre's Spectacles and the intense interest for Figurine of Power: Reaver fascinating. PS deals 50% more damage, the damage is type-less (thus probably not resistible), and openes up another item slot.

Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with someone liking what they like. I just find it curious.


I think part of the like of the Reaver is seeming to get something for free (or at the cost of play which they are already doing). I have never chosen a UR FoP for any of my group builds. I have gotten a few a less desirable UR's (Raven and Pixie) as randoms. So I will replace all the rare FoP with the Reaver if I am able to make 10. If it was a UR as a PYP though I would not be replacing them. I think for certain classes there are better UR FoP choices. But being on a limited budget and buying to build out a party means choices need to be made and FoP has never been one of those choices. There are other considerations I make when choosing UR's for the year but I don't need to go into all that.

Psyferre's Spectacles also are in a slot that there is good competition for. Melee classes like the Goggles of Instant Analysis, Lenses of Divine Sight for Healers, Rangey Rogues like the Lenses of Agilty (other rangey build may like them too Of Lenses of the Fae or Sniper Spectacles). My wizards currently rock Lenses of Sage Speed but that is only because I have gotten them randomly or from treasure pulls. They may likely change to Psyferre's Spectacles if I randomly got them from orders or treasure box.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #227

Druegar wrote: Please review the latest beta version of the 2021 QTR and post your corrections, suggestions, and questions in this thread. This version (B8) is primarily about changes to recipes.

If you feel a recipe should be altered, please include your rational. Posts merely exclaiming your hatred of a recipe or TDHQ personnel without a rational will be blithely ignored.

Please continue to ignore page/column breaks. Page/column breaks get finalized last.


Thanks for removing Golden Fleece from the Cavadar recipe! It would be nice to have the extra 1,000 GP removed as well, but if not I'm OK with it now that Golden Fleece is gone.
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QTR 2021 Beta 3 years 5 months ago #228

I re-read the text on Monk's Cloak:

-3 dmg from non-magical missiles; Monk: -3 dmg from magical missiles

I would take this to mean that Monks benefit from both forms of DR.
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