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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece?

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #169

With new Cons, escpecially Pax which has very different geography, the player base should expand. As should demand. Eventually.
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #170

Jeff321 wrote: It might bounce back with CoAS needing 1 and the legendaries requiring 2. But yeah it seems more cons = more pulls = more bits = more fleece.

More surprising to me is that treasure pulls are selling for $7 per despite this.


Wait... they are?

I've got some I'll sell for $6 lol!

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #171

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Jeff321 wrote: It might bounce back with CoAS needing 1 and the legendaries requiring 2. But yeah it seems more cons = more pulls = more bits = more fleece.

More surprising to me is that treasure pulls are selling for $7 per despite this.


Wait... they are?

I've got some I'll sell for $6 lol!


Laz and myself each had recent eBay sales at that price.
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #172

Harlax wrote: With new Cons, escpecially Pax which has very different geography, the player base should expand. As should demand. Eventually.


I think the player base expanding will bring the market price down further. More players = more pulls = more fleece. And there's a decent number of TE Tokens in circulation that will allow newer players to generate additional pulls. Plus we have the Gold Nugget coming up next year which will add more pulls. TPTB could always water down the treasure mix if they felt they needed to.
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #173

Rob F wrote:

Harlax wrote: With new Cons, escpecially Pax which has very different geography, the player base should expand. As should demand. Eventually.


I think the player base expanding will bring the market price down further. More players = more pulls = more fleece. And there's a decent number of TE Tokens in circulation that will allow newer players to generate additional pulls. Plus we have the Gold Nugget coming up next year which will add more pulls. TPTB could always water down the treasure mix if they felt they needed to.


If the trend towards requiring more Fleece for lengendary (and even relic) transmutes continues that will have an impact. As will requiring monster bits for enhanced and exalted transmutes.
D&D teaches all the important lessons in life - the low blow, the cheap shot, the back stab, the double cross. - Jerry Marsischky

Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

You try to get them to play the game, but all they want to do is play the rules. - Ardak Kumerian

I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend - Faramir

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #174

Jeff321 wrote: More surprising to me is that treasure pulls are selling for $7 per despite this.


I don't think that's true any longer. I have 10x treasure draws for sale on my site at just over $40 (or $4/ea) after discounts and haven't sold a single one.

I guess I need to list them on eBay.
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #175

Rob F wrote:

Harlax wrote: With new Cons, escpecially Pax which has very different geography, the player base should expand. As should demand. Eventually.


I think the player base expanding will bring the market price down further. More players = more pulls = more fleece. And there's a decent number of TE Tokens in circulation that will allow newer players to generate additional pulls. Plus we have the Gold Nugget coming up next year which will add more pulls. TPTB could always water down the treasure mix if they felt they needed to.


You’re mistaken. It’s not a problem for TPTB. It’s only a problem for those wishing to SELL them. TPTB do not sell them they only trade for them.
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #176

Bob Chasan wrote: You’re mistaken. It’s not a problem for TPTB. It’s only a problem for those wishing to SELL them. TPTB do not sell them they only trade for them.


Less valuable treasure means less demand for treasure-enhancing tokens, which traditionally is a large driver of token sales, so there definitely could be an indirect effect.
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #177

Kirk Bauer wrote:

Bob Chasan wrote: You’re mistaken. It’s not a problem for TPTB. It’s only a problem for those wishing to SELL them. TPTB do not sell them they only trade for them.


Less valuable treasure means less demand for treasure-enhancing tokens, which traditionally is a large driver of token sales, so there definitely could be an indirect effect.


The thing is;
I’m a big believer in a free market establishing a price. I don’t know if you were at PAX or not but there is a Whole new generation of players who are going to want enhanced tokens. I don’t see the sky falling nor do I see TEs falling too much.
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #178

So someone like me who is interested in making legendary / exalted , would it be better to save money on to getting Te equipment first or just buy materials when I get money?

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #179

Bob Chasan wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Harlax wrote: With new Cons, escpecially Pax which has very different geography, the player base should expand. As should demand. Eventually.


I think the player base expanding will bring the market price down further. More players = more pulls = more fleece. And there's a decent number of TE Tokens in circulation that will allow newer players to generate additional pulls. Plus we have the Gold Nugget coming up next year which will add more pulls. TPTB could always water down the treasure mix if they felt they needed to.


You’re mistaken. It’s not a problem for TPTB. It’s only a problem for those wishing to SELL them. TPTB do not sell them they only trade for them.


I never said it was a problem for TPTB
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 2 months ago #180

Rob F wrote:

Bob Chasan wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Harlax wrote: With new Cons, escpecially Pax which has very different geography, the player base should expand. As should demand. Eventually.


I think the player base expanding will bring the market price down further. More players = more pulls = more fleece. And there's a decent number of TE Tokens in circulation that will allow newer players to generate additional pulls. Plus we have the Gold Nugget coming up next year which will add more pulls. TPTB could always water down the treasure mix if they felt they needed to.


You’re mistaken. It’s not a problem for TPTB. It’s only a problem for those wishing to SELL them. TPTB do not sell them they only trade for them.


I never said it was a problem for TPTB


You are correct you Never said it was a problem for TPTB however.....
The assumption comes from TPTB “could always water down the treasure mix if they felt they needed to”
They would only make a change to correct something, not sure what to call it? :silly:
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