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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #181

Donald Rients wrote: Our plans are to assign our two RoSP to our Ranger/Druid (along with the Supreme Ring of Elemental Command). Once per year they will get a Sub-Class Ranger/Druid at 5th level, and an unknown more to come correct? Getting the 5th level wouldn’t be a boost for them but the sub-class might or might not (for one run). I am just trying to see how this will benefit the two classes worthy of a 7-year item.


You might want to give the Cleric and Druid both the Rod and Supreme Ring. The Eldritch 2-Item Set bonus gives both of them +10 on all of their healing spells. :)

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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #182

Donald Rients wrote: Our plans are to assign our two RoSP to our Ranger/Druid (along with the Supreme Ring of Elemental Command). Once per year they will get a Sub-Class Ranger/Druid at 5th level, and an unknown more to come correct? Getting the 5th level wouldn’t be a boost for them but the sub-class might or might not (for one run). I am just trying to see how this will benefit the two classes worthy of a 7-year item.


I am wondering if the prestige class voucher will be a separate thing from the rod. For example, i equip 3 people and have 2 rods, obviously give the rods to ranger and druid...can i let the rogue use a voucher?

Even if coaches are checking/disallowing that, my wife/druid doesnt run as many times as stacey/rogue, so rogue can play assassin on a different run. Really, my dilema is which of us get to use the vouchers; wife/druid/casual player, me/ranger/token owner, best friend/rogue/long time player of TD?
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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #183

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I would have to assume that the holder of the rod is the only character that can use the voucher.
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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #184

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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #185

If we are still counting I have 3 sets and an extra segment 1.

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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #186

I'm a bit late to the party on this, but I currently have Segments 1 through 6, and will be getting a completed rod when I get my Segment 7.
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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #187

Mike Steele wrote:

Raywind wrote: I would have to assume that the holder of the rod is the only character that can use the voucher.


That is my assumption also.


Actually I'm suprised at your respose Mike, this would mean only you could use your 4 completed rods, or could you only use one and the other three go unused?

I think this goes against rewarding big investors like yourself. I don't think Jeff would want to go down this path. The rod's voucher should be able to be used by anyone in your party; or maybe, you could use one of the other vouchers in a second run. You (and I, and all other big investors) should have the flexibility to use the ONE time voucher as we see fit. That is what keeps big investors (well, at least me) happy. LOL!!!

Jim

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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #188

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Disbeeleaf wrote: Given that the statistical improvements from the completed rod are equal to the sum of the parts - AND NO MORE, and due to the fact that there has been no mention of a transmute cost for this, I would not expect there to be any transmute cost, consistent with providing each of the seven part tokens and getting one completed rod in return - AND NO MORE.

I'm sure the alt class opportunity will be nice, and I suspect it's only a matter of time before it is open to all players, but I still want to lobby for the number one element that makes TD thrilling. It's not tokens, sorry - it is and always will be clever and innovative dungeons that challenge and exceed the thrills of the previous dungeons.


I am very confident that it was stated that the transmute cost for the rod would be the segments plus one of each trade good, just like the supreme ring. it was said that would be the standard for all eldritch items. now, that isn't saying that jeff cant change his mind, but as for what was said before, I am/was sure enough of that standard that years ago I already set aside two ziplock bags with one of each trade good and a checklist for the rod segments.


That is my memory also, that it is standard transmute cost for all Eldritch Items.


Having been involved with the formula creation almost from the beginning, I don't recall there being a stated standard transmute cost. Further more, this could severely restrict what the combined powers could be. (Asumming you are trying to maintain some cost/power balance).

This year, I originally proposed (to Jeff) without knowing the power (I made some assumptions on what it would be) that the formula would be twice the cost of the Supreme Ring of Elemental Power.

However, now that I know the power, I'm much more comfortable in recommending a formula very much like the ring.

I still think we should have the flexibility to change the "formula".
(just in case)

Jim

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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #189

JimC wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Raywind wrote: I would have to assume that the holder of the rod is the only character that can use the voucher.


That is my assumption also.


Actually I'm suprised at your respose Mike, this would mean only you could use your 4 completed rods, or could you only use one and the other three go unused?

I think this goes against rewarding big investors like yourself. I don't think Jeff would want to go down this path. The rod's voucher should be able to be used by anyone in your party; or maybe, you could use one of the other vouchers in a second run. You (and I, and all other big investors) should have the flexibility to use the ONE time voucher as we see fit. That is what keeps big investors (well, at least me) happy. LOL!!!

Jim


jim, you misunderstood the phrase 'holder of the rod'. that is not referring to the owner, making it function like an artifact, it is referring to the current user. since mike will have 4 rods, any adventure he goes on there will, presumably, be 4 'holders of the rod' who would be eligible to use a voucher.

hence my workaround if I decide to let my rogue-friend use a voucher, she will just have to wait for a run that my druid-wife is not on.
...I just had this thought cross my mind: my friend can only use my rod when my wife isn't playing with it.
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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #190

As many know, I outfit a complete team of ten. And yes, I have a complete set for each team member. Plus one, to keep as individual parts. So, add 11 to the total.

That is at least in the 50s or maybe the 60s (depending on whose count). I suspect the total to be closer to 100 (part 1's) given what we have seen here.

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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #191

kurtreznor wrote:

JimC wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Raywind wrote: I would have to assume that the holder of the rod is the only character that can use the voucher.


That is my assumption also.


Actually I'm suprised at your respose Mike, this would mean only you could use your 4 completed rods, or could you only use one and the other three go unused?

I think this goes against rewarding big investors like yourself. I don't think Jeff would want to go down this path. The rod's voucher should be able to be used by anyone in your party; or maybe, you could use one of the other vouchers in a second run. You (and I, and all other big investors) should have the flexibility to use the ONE time voucher as we see fit. That is what keeps big investors (well, at least me) happy. LOL!!!

Jim


jim, you misunderstood the phrase 'holder of the rod'. that is not referring to the owner, making it function like an artifact, it is referring to the current user. since mike will have 4 rods, any adventure he goes on there will, presumably, be 4 'holders of the rod' who would be eligible to use a voucher.

hence my workaround if I decide to let my rogue-friend use a voucher, she will just have to wait for a run that my druid-wife is not on.
...I just had this thought cross my mind: my friend can only use my rod when my wife isn't playing with it.


Kent, exactly. All four of the Rods will be in use every adventure we go on, three by the Druid/Cleric/Wizard, and the fourth undecided. I'm not sure yet if we'll all use the voucher on the same run, or perhaps spread them out on multiple runs. It probably depends on how awesome the various prestige classes are. If one or two are especially awesome, I might have those two use two vouchers each on two different runs.

I also hope we are able to keep the vouchers as keepsakes once they are used. Hopefully they can be stamped or some similar marking to show they were used as opposed to collecting them.

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Re: Update on Completed Rod of Seven Parts 10 years 2 months ago #192

Oh, and Jim, congrats on being able to get 11 complete sets! I have plenty of Segments 3-7, but wasn't buying enough in the first couple of years to have 10 of those (and sold a couple of the Segment 1's that I did have extra, since I didn't have Segment 2's to go with them) :)

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