TOPIC: 2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < Part Three

Ranger should probably be dropped from the savage sword. Since they get 2 slides of full damage, let the Fighter and Paladin shine with higher single damage weapon.

If the legendary is going to have +hp on hit, let's give it to fighters on the UR too. Something like this: (fighters + 2 hp on hit)

I'm not entirely sure why we need such a drastic increase in damage on the UR (Its like 50% more than the old +2 slayer sword and a solid damage increase on the axe of the dwarvish kings). I'd advocate for a lower damage wheel until we know the full plan for a higher damage wheel.

Endgame wrote: Ranger should probably be dropped from the savage sword. Since they get 2 slides of full damage, let the Fighter and Paladin shine with higher single damage weapon.

If the legendary is going to have +hp on hit, let's give it to fighters on the UR too. Something like this: (fighters + 2 hp on hit)

I'm not entirely sure why we need such a drastic increase in damage on the UR (Its like 50% more than the old +2 slayer sword and a solid damage increase on the axe of the dwarvish kings). I'd advocate for a lower damage wheel until we know the full plan for a higher damage wheel.

I’d + 1 this unless other class melee legendary’s are gonna get reworked. The dmg wheel on the UR Savage is 9/16 and on Ava’s is 6/14. Welfors is a bit better with 6/17 but not skills as is not class specific. I’m happy to give fighters a nice bad ass weapon that is just what they want, but it’s kinda demoralizing having less hit chance and one of the weakest hits, Outside Nat 20 on Evil Outsiders…Now I could be doing something wrong but my build is up there in the E+ ranging,

Bead of Shared Recovery incorrectly bears the initialism BoSr (should be BoSR, with a capital R)

Ho-Yi Fung wrote: Bead of Shared Recovery incorrectly bears the initialism BoSr (should be BoSR, with a capital R)

Thanks for catching all these dumb mistakes. I am always in too big of a hurry. Thanks for your patience.

Jeff Martin wrote:

Ho-Yi Fung wrote: Bead of Shared Recovery incorrectly bears the initialism BoSr (should be BoSR, with a capital R)

Thanks for catching all these dumb mistakes. I am always in too big of a hurry. Thanks for your patience.

You should give yourself a break my friend. You’re a busy man, with hundreds of things going on, with hundreds more in idea form plus altering recipes, designs, dungeons, text and more. You are an amazing man and we all love you and are beyond grateful for all you do both known and not known

+2 Mystic staff of the ancients: the damage wheel is 2 higher at the low and high end than the +1 mystic staff of the serpent. Is this really a +3 staff? Is the rare level really not a +1? Not really a balance issue, just a minor consistency thing that doesn't really need resolution.

Acherin's Biting Bow: possibly intentional, but it seems to have less purple magic glow effect than the other UR images, kind of looks more like a shadow effect across the bottom anyway. Looks good as is, just a consistency note.

NightGod wrote: Wings could use the earlier idea of HP trade mechanic- "Pay 20HP to double base melee weapon damage".

Being so angry you push yourself past your normal limits to hurt the enemy more while also hurting yourself seems like a wrathful act

I like this idea, the Barbarian MEC!

what's with all this "Ancients" stuff?

My first time taking a look this year. Art looks amazing! Overall I like what I see.

Thoughts on a few of the tokens:

Savage Sword - damage wheel seems to jacked! Maybe downgrade or add a negative effect to using to counterbalance. Probably need to drop Ranger.

Acherin's Biting Bow - love it, any chance of sneaking rogue on there?

Bead of Shared Recovery - This seems too strong, maybe 1/2/4, right now the only regen effect item that sees much play is Icecrag's and that gives 1 hp; Templar set gives 4. Seems like these should be in the same ballpark. Groups that invest in 10, that's a lot of healing!

Charm of the Ancients - my initial reaction was it was too weak, but after looking through tokendb, it seems to slot in there with Lucky Charm and Questor's. Thought the same thing about Ring of the Ancients but after looking again it seems fine.

Robe of the Ancients - Any chance we could get like +2 AC, or +3 Dex, or +3 Int added on here too? Even just +1 AC, so like a common robe plus 2 fire damage.

Troll Shield - I like but specifically for Barbarians this gets us into Orb of Might Ranged Off-hand sleaze territory. Seeing as they will likely be 2H for melee, then Sling + Troll Shield to sleaze +3 strength. So may have to drop Barbarian or restrict to melee off-hand.

smakdown wrote: what's with all this "Ancients" stuff?

I would love to see the Wings of Wrath bring back the Oak Runestone effect and knock flyers out of the air. That feels like a pretty wrathful strike to me, and is an effect that benefits the party.

Welfor's LEGENDARY Sword has an average damage of 10.5, a Token that folks probably paid close to 1K for. The new UR +2 Savage Sword's average damage is 12.5. That's WAY to good at the UR level. Please bring it back in line with a typical UR weapon.

Other examples:

The Axe of the Dwarvish Kings which is a recent UR that gives Dwarf Fighters a +2 to hit has an average damage of 9.5

And the two handed bad boy +2 Deathcleaver which has the highest average damage is only 9.8