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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 2 days ago #13

Dave wrote: I know all the veterans I run with love seeing and running with newbies. [...]

That's nice to hear. :) It's always a tad embarassing to get into something over a decade after the fact, but that seems to be my MO for fandom haha.

For myself personally, I can definitely understand getting overwhelmed, especially at an in-person event where you can't really see your stats and aren't physically holding the chips you're being non-tangibly loaned. But after doing my first virtual, I'm a huge fan of how the resources lay everything out for you. So I'm ready to welcome new and different experiences with this game. :)

I'm liking this forum so far, too, because if (and I stress if) I'm able to do each of these Barb Beard adventures, I can coordinate on here to get a party with the good apples. ^_^

Luckily in my case, I don't plan to run any modules without my friend who introduced me to TD, so even if she and I are the only ones solving a puzzle, neither of us will be alone.

NightGod wrote: There's also a "Nightmare Weird" that tends to get used more as the season progresses [...]

Aaaah, that makes sense! In that case, doing the first of the year on Nightmare sounds like a good way to test the waters for me. :) But I'm actually really happy for the DMs that groups will let them play around like that so it breaks up the monotony for them a little bit. And since currently Sunday is the best day for me, I imagine I'll get to experience a weird run sometime this upcoming year. :D

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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #14

I didn't fully read some of the longer responses, so just here to plug that Hardcore (Normal < HC < NM) is more accessible w/o as much borrowing AND still gets you max XP :)

Agree with organizing and looking for groups before hand on the forums.

MOST folks are supportive and encouraging of new players and as Wade mentioned, hit us up and we can help you find a good group.
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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #15

Yeaaah I'm longwinded, sorry. >_<

And I appreciate the info! I think I'm gonna give NM a whirl and if it's not for me or my friend I'll step back into HC. :)

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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #16

Hello and welcome to the wonderful world of TD fandom. I think you'll find that we're generally a welcoming and generous community. As a general matter, most people organizing NM runs on the forums won't have a problem with a newer player joining. My regular group, for example, is totally fine with newer players joining us. Playing with us is a reasonable way to check out NM play for someone who isn't quite ready to make the leap on their own. We're happy to lend anything we have, and I usually say so in the forum post. Of course, not everyone has 10 of everything, so you can't assume that you'll have your pick of all possible tokens when joining a forum run. People might only have "leftovers" to share. Now, leftovers from a NM-ready group are probably pretty good, but might not be the absolute best-in-slot.

That said, I suggest reading forum posts carefully, and maybe sending a PM to the organizer if you aren't sure you'd be a good fit for the group. Some folks will be clear that they're looking for independently NM-ready players. Others will specify that it's a specality run of some kind and they expect people to come ready for the challenge. Others will say that they're open to newer players and describe what they can loan. Good communication goes a long way, as does respecting the intent of the run.

Finally, one of the most important steps for moving from Normal into HC, NM, and Epic is having a way of making your character a Fifth Level character. If you have a token (or token set) that confers that benefit, that goes a long way to being able to hang at a higher difficulty level. If you have a token that provides Fifth Level but with a drawback (such as Cook's Hat or Ring of Fateful Heroism), someone might be able to lend you a non-drawback item (such as the Charm of Heroism or Ring of Heroism) that would free up some slots. It would be helpful if you (a) know your base build well and (b) know what the most common loaner items are, and how they can help your build, so you can make informed choices when people offer you loaner gear. Also, to the extent you can work out loans in advance, before the coaching room, that's also really helpful for avoiding lots of last-minute switching stuff around, which can make life easier on all concerned (including the coaches).

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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #17

Thank you! :) Yeah, I've figured just communicating clearly about desires/expectations/abilities/etc beforehand is the best way to go so everyone knows what they're getting into.

I know not everyone will have 10 of (almost) everything. I honestly have no idea who I ran with in V6C who did but I imagine they must be in this forum somewhere, lol. But yeah I would only do NM if I could get loaned Charm/Ring of Heroism for that same reason. :)

I'm gonna try to work out loans in advance so that my character sheet is definitely ready to go well in advance of Ebony Sail!

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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #18

voiceactresskurutta wrote:

Dave wrote: I know all the veterans I run with love seeing and running with newbies. [...]

That's nice to hear. :) It's always a tad embarrassing to get into something over a decade after the fact, but that seems to be my MO for fandom haha.


Definitely don't feel embarrassed about that. TD wouldn't survive without newer players, and it's an incredibly welcoming place. I've only been playing since 2019, and I've never felt like less than a full and important part of the community. Especially once you get a few runs under your belt and get a solid understanding of the rules almost the only thing that'll set you apart from people who've been playing for a decade is their token collections are bigger than yours.

The only caveat to that is in token trading. Some people will be a bit more hesitant to trade high value tokens with you via mail until you're more established. It's not a slight against any newer player, just the reality that it takes a lot of trust to mail someone high value things and rely on them mailing back what's owed. Once you're a known quantity it's less of a big deal though. I got extremely lucky early on and pulled a legendary in my treasure. I traded it with someone who needed me to mail them my token first and receive it before they'd mail me their part. That's not in any way a hard and fast rule, just what I experienced, and I felt like it was pretty reasonable. Now that I'm fully established in the community and a known quantity people have no problem mailing me hundreds or even thousands of dollars in tokens for trades, because they know I'm good for it.

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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #19

Thank you. :) I wish I had known about it sooner, though both before I moved cross-country and after, I've always been in the wrong place for it haha. I only found out about it this past September because my friend convinced me to go to Pax.

I look forward to learning more so I'm not that person asking beginner questions in probably the wrong threads like 5x/day.

Honestly it'll probably be awhile before I can get into actual trading and not just buying. It's hard not to want to keep one of everything - even tokens I'd never use. Plus I've got joint custody with my collection, lmao. I also have to accumulate anything work trading and not these 5 Gnomish Leather Jerkin that aren't even enough to be sent in for a trade item, haha.

I'm buying some tokens from members here soon and - being a fairly poor person - it does make me nervous sending a chunk of money to someone with no assurances they'll send the tokens. But if they've got a huge posting history, I'm gonna hope they're legitimate. I'd also like to get involved in the volunteer scene one day, maybe if TD can expand into other states.

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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #20

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I can strongly recommend volunteering, it's a great way to meet the community :)
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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #21

I want to! But I'm in Oregon and I'm not knowledgeable enough to be a virtual GM, and I'm not really sure what other remote positions there are. And the volunteer form online is kind of dauntingly huge. I realized as I was trying to fill it out that my answers to everything were basically 'hey I'd love to volunteer but I'm completely incompetent and in the wrong part of the country, whatcha got for me' :(

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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #22

voiceactresskurutta wrote: I'm not sure yet if I'm going to be able to get a ticket for Ebony Sail, so forgive me if this is the wrong place to put this.

I just did Bogwood Beast recently and had the fortune to be in a party with at least one veteran with essentially 10 of every token. So I decked out my Ranger in the fanciest things I could find. And of course, on normal mode, I was never in any danger. I still had a great time, but it got me thinking that I really wouldn't mind giving Nightmare a whirl for that hefty exp if I basically had my pick of all game items from a fellow player.

That said, I'm really inexperienced (only done two modules - one in person and one virtual) and don't want to bungle it up for the Serious Business players by being a numbskull. So... how welcome are utter novices to nightmare runs?

As tickets go on "sail" and I figure out if I can attend, I want to know if I should be looking out for certain parties to join.


You're more than welcome to join us on a NM/EPIC run. We take new players on runs with us all the time! GHC we picked up three random players that wanted to try TD, we did NM and they had a blast!
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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #23

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Since these were your first runs, be sure to fill in the code for your experience .

Keep in mind that's for PLAYER experience, not CHARACTER experience, but it eventually leads to some cool extras like access to a special area of the forums where you can get some early news about the game (and participate in token design for the coming season, my personal favorite part of this perk) and a Badge of Nobility token (at level 5), a bonus token every run (once you hit level 6) and badge holder (7th), lapel pin (8th), permanent +1AC and Adventure Guild access (9th) and some cool toys coming for 10+.

With the six vTD runs coming this year and the fact that you ran vTD6c, you could potentially be well into level 5 by the end of the current series

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How Welcome Are Newbies in Nightmare Runs? 2 months 1 day ago #24

voiceactresskurutta wrote: I want to! But I'm in Oregon and I'm not knowledgeable enough to be a virtual GM, and I'm not really sure what other remote positions there are. And the volunteer form online is kind of dauntingly huge. I realized as I was trying to fill it out that my answers to everything were basically 'hey I'd love to volunteer but I'm completely incompetent and in the wrong part of the country, whatcha got for me' :(


You'd be surprised as to who TD will take, willingness to do near anything and willingness to learn are big factors. It is far easier to get in on physical cons as there's only so many slots for virtual but same token one never knows when TD needs people where. This previously and maybe again innkeeper got promoted/demoted to VTD DM because hey Matt we need you as a DM more and would I be willing to do it. So opportunities do come up.

A large pain last year (of many) is missing out on the volunteer family i've been accepted into from over the years. Spent many a shift and many a meal gathering with my fellow vols.

Also welcome to the community.
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