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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #25

can we get a virtual convention sub forum started?

I want to start trying to find a place in a HC or nightmare run.

if these are like normal runs, we need everyone to agree to it.
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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #26

Jeff Martin wrote:

FiannaTiger wrote: I am excited about VTD but my main concern is that GenCon does 3 main dungeons and about 700-800 runs, and with VTD we have 208 total slots for 2 dungeons so 312 for 3 dungeons is about 45% of the runs that we would have. I know there are 5 dungeons so 520 total runs but the runs per dungeon are what scare me the most. I'm a AG member so I get a bit of early access to tickets but there will be a lot of people that won't be able to find runs possibly. Would it be possible space/volunteer wise to run the dungeons multiple weekends before tearing down to build the next dungeon?


Depending on how the event goes on Gen Con weekend, we might be able to run the same exact event again during PAX West weekend in September. It is too early to speculate on that, however. There are a lot of factors in play. Thanks for your interest. I hope it happens.


I was wondering the same thing. If the demand were there, it would be great if it were possible to run each adventure multiple weekends.

As far as the announcement, it would have been great to have a little more info to forward my friends ahead of time, like the dates, price, and maybe a sentence description of the two dungeons. It's hard to get people on board without some basic info like that.

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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #27

With the limited number of tickets, it would be nice if the Patron and AG Windows only allowed one full slot purchase of each Dungeon per person maximum as the advance perk, and they could buy more when general ticketing opened up.

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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #28

Mike Steele wrote: With the limited number of tickets, it would be nice if the Patron and AG Windows only allowed one full slot purchase of each Dungeon per person maximum as the advance perk, and they could buy more when general ticketing opened up.


Probably a good idea for the rest of the VTD runs

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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #29

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: With the limited number of tickets, it would be nice if the Patron and AG Windows only allowed one full slot purchase of each Dungeon per person maximum as the advance perk, and they could buy more when general ticketing opened up.


Probably a good idea for the rest of the VTD runs


Agree. I'm seeing about 36% of all tickets gone before AG starts. Hopefully, I'm wrong, but the biggest complaint on Friday when this opens up may be how little is still available. I guess it might be kind of a good problem to have. Certainly better than no one being interested.

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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #30

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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #31

I am very disappointed in the price. I saw the FAQ that you took the lowest TD price 58 and added 8 for shipping. I understand the effort (cost) to put on this may equal a regular TD experience (not having to ship equalling the new techology added) but what we are getting out of it is not equal.. Granted it may be Extremely cool, but it will not be the same as the experiences that you have created for us in the past.

The 8 shipping per ticket also is a minor annoyance to me. It seems like it should only be a add on if people want something shipped to them. Most would pay to have their tokens shipped to them, but I bet there are some that wouldn’t care about a starter pack and 3 treasure for $8. If there are any couples or groups they are paying for shipping on each ticket vs possibly a single shipment (which granted could be over $8 depending on the number of tokens being shipped).

All that said I will have a run with the my group for VTD1 because of the product you have provided us in the past. I am probably going to hold off getting a full run for VTD2 (and future ones) till we see what this new experience is likely to see if it is worth the price of an actual dungeon to us.

Again I understand the cost may likely the same for TD to put on this experience so I understand the price point. It just comes down to whether we feel the enjoyment we get is worth that price point.
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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #32

We are pretty excited but are trying to keep it at a minimum so that it wont be a bummer if we don't get tickets. I echo what a lot of other people have already said about ticket supply to demand, and I have to admit that I was a little disappointed to see that ghosting will currently be allowed when I read through the FAQ.

It would be awesome if each of the runs could happen on multiple weekends to help bolster the number of available runs. Our group is much more story focused and two have already said that if they miss out on the first run they aren't as interested in the following runs if they are in any way connected ("I don't want to jump in to the ending of a book and have to get the spark notes for the first half" is how one of them described it, and I get what she means).

That being said, I think the concept is amazing and it's awesome that it was able to come together so quickly. I feel like it really could open the doors to being able to play more TD through the year and I can't wait to see where it goes.

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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #33

Dave wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: With the limited number of tickets, it would be nice if the Patron and AG Windows only allowed one full slot purchase of each Dungeon per person maximum as the advance perk, and they could buy more when general ticketing opened up.


Probably a good idea for the rest of the VTD runs


Agree. I'm seeing about 36% of all tickets gone before AG starts. Hopefully, I'm wrong, but the biggest complaint on Friday when this opens up may be how little is still available. I guess it might be kind of a good problem to have. Certainly better than no one being interested.


I’m not sure there is evidence of widespread patrons buying more than a full run.

Around 40 runs were sold before this morning.

There are more than 50 patrons.

I’m ambivalent about the proposed rule, but there I’m not convinced it would have changed much had it been in place.

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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #34

jedibcg wrote: I am very disappointed in the price. I saw the FAQ that you took the lowest TD price 58 and added 8 for shipping. I understand the effort (cost) to put on this may equal a regular TD experience (not having to ship equalling the new techology added) but what we are getting out of it is not equal.. Granted it may be Extremely cool, but it will not be the same as the experiences that you have created for us in the past.

The 8 shipping per ticket also is a minor annoyance to me. It seems like it should only be a add on if people want something shipped to them. Most would pay to have their tokens shipped to them, but I bet there are some that wouldn’t care about a starter pack and 3 treasure for $8. If there are any couples or groups they are paying for shipping on each ticket vs possibly a single shipment (which granted could be over $8 depending on the number of tokens being shipped).

All that said I will have a run with the my group for VTD1 because of the product you have provided us in the past. I am probably going to hold off getting a full run for VTD2 (and future ones) till we see what this new experience is likely to see if it is worth the price of an actual dungeon to us.

Again I understand the cost may likely the same for TD to put on this experience so I understand the price point. It just comes down to whether we feel the enjoyment we get is worth that price point.


$58 is more than comparable for virtual escape rooms. Is it the same as in-person? This is also 25% less than the cost for in person ($80 per run last year so would have been $88 this time.)

Considering the lack of well done gaming resources available for all of us virtually, I view TD making this available is a godsend.

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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #35

Fred K wrote:
$58 is more than comparable for virtual escape rooms. Is it the same as in-person? This is also 25% less than the cost for in person ($80 per run last year so would have been $88 this time.)

Considering the lack of well done gaming resources available for all of us virtually, I view TD making this available is a godsend.

Fred

I don't now about comparable to an virtual escape room. I have seen them ranging from $25 to $40 though. So price point maybe. But if it is only comparable to a virtual escape room why do TD and just do a escape room instead. TD has always been better than an escape room imo. But I haven't done any virtual escape rooms so maybe the comparison is fair. As far as comparing it to Gen ConTD price. Gen Con dungeons are supposed to be the Enchanced done for the extra cost. So I definitely do not feel that is a fair comparison. The Dungeons of Game Hole Con and Origins are better comparisons. We don't know what the cost of dungeon would have been this year. Jumping to $88 seems unlikely though.
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Please Post Your Thoughts About This Whole VTD Campaign Announcement 9 months 2 weeks ago #36

I'm really happy with this announcement in general, I've gone from around a month or two ago when I expected to see zero TD for the foreseeable future to now seeing five events announced, all of which are at a lower price than I normally pay at GenCon. If anything this is going to let me play more True Dungeon than usual during a year.
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