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Indiana plan to re-open 2 months 5 days ago #13

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bpsymington wrote: I maintain my optimism. It hurt so much to miss GC and TD last year, that missing it again would be terrible (I know, first world problems). I am glad to hear IN has this plan in place.

I am also glad that they are going to make this dependent on how much progress is made over the next couple of months. Three months is a long time.

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Indiana plan to re-open 2 months 5 days ago #14

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Positive news, now some beyond the wall types just have to hope they open the border with canukistan by then.
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Picc wrote: Positive news, now some beyond the wall types just have to hope they open the border with canukistan by then.


Just walk across one of the many unguarded parts?
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Fiddy wrote:

Picc wrote: Positive news, now some beyond the wall types just have to hope they open the border with canukistan by then.


Just walk across one of the many unguarded parts?


Or paddle. The Boundary Waters are easy. Viva la Compagnie!
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Indiana plan to re-open 2 months 4 days ago #17

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Harlax wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Picc wrote: Positive news, now some beyond the wall types just have to hope they open the border with canukistan by then.


Just walk across one of the many unguarded parts?


Or paddle. The Boundary Waters are easy. Viva la Compagnie!


I feel like either of these plans may result in me playing less TD over the next 5 to 10 years even with the time off for good behaviour XD
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Indiana plan to re-open 2 months 4 days ago #18

I have hopes to go too still.

I'm planning a 2 week self isolation if it does happen post con.
My big problem is if our country has opened borders to the USoA by that time.
While we have things under fair control in Oz they are talking about no international travel till 2021.
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Indiana plan to re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #19

No need to do tracing at this time. Covid19 is so prevalent that it would be impossible and honestly illrelevant. Its everywhere. By the end of the year, I think 95% of us will have been exposed, so its only a matter of time and genetic luck- are you one of the rare, very vulnerable people or not?
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Indiana plan to re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #20

Brad F wrote: No need to do tracing at this time. Covid19 is so prevalent that it would be impossible and honestly illrelevant. Its everywhere. By the end of the year, I think 95% of us will have been exposed, so its only a matter of time and genetic luck- are you one of the rare, very vulnerable people or not?


Pretty much this. Several studies are finding out that far more people have already had COVID-19. One prison that was studied showed that 98% of the inmates had COVID-19 antibodies and 96% of those infected never had symptoms. With the new data it looks like it has a death rate of 0.05% in the general population

It is still a VERY deadly virus to some people. The elderly are at extremely high risk! It certainly is more deadly than the flu but that could be because we have yearly vaccines for the flu so less people get it.

Then again, this is just with current data. All that may change as we find out more.
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Indiana plan to re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #21

There are some major caveats to include in something like that.

That doesn't necessarily mean that all 96% were never without symptoms, but that they were without symptoms at the time of testing. If a large portion of those people developed symptoms a day or two later (and the incubation time from exposure to symptoms seems to vary significantly), that throws the numbers on its head.

Mass testing allows for a snapshot in time, but it's not an absolute.

Also, looking at the National Post article that I suspect you're quoting based on the 96% reference, that wasn't one prison, it was reflective of testing done of inmates in prisons across 4 separate states.

It's also ~2.5 weeks old. I'd be very interested to see a follow up round of testing on those populations, and investigations on how many that tested with antibodies present later developed symptoms.

Also, from what I've read, there are people pushing antibody tests with major (if not shocking) error rates, especially false positives. Being told you've had it and are theoretically immune (another thing we don't know with certainty) and that being incorrect could lead to some bad places.

Note that I do agree, we're all doing the best we can with the data we have, and right now that's not great. Not enough tests (especially in the US), a lot of fear and uncertainty, and I sincerely hope we have better answers and soon.

But I'm guessing we won't have this all mastered in the short term, and in terms of having time to set up event scheduling, fire up the portal to get people buying tickets and whatnot, I highly doubt that can be put off until a few days before the con is supposed to happen (in this case assuming that it does go on, whether or not that ends up being a good idea), which means that despite being about 2.5 months from the event, I'm guessing it's realistically more like weeks away (a month'ish at most?) from having to really weigh on the go/no-go option, assuming the city or state don't make the choice for them.
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Indiana plan to re-open 1 month 3 weeks ago #22

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COVID-19 is just Mother Nature setting things right.

Back in the day the elderly and lame would just wander into the woods/wild leaving the tribes/clans behind. They did this so as not to impose on the quality of living of the society.

We have nearly 9 billion people on Earth right now. The planet cannot sustain that kind of abuse from humanity that only cares about their selfish wants.

This virus as well as future ones along with increased natural disasters are not surprising. If you abuse the world you live and rely on then expect to have the scales balanced.
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Ro-gan wrote: COVID-19 is just Mother Nature setting things right.

Back in the day the elderly and lame would just wander into the woods/wild leaving the tribes/clans behind. They did this so as not to impose on the quality of living of the society.

We have nearly 9 billion people on Earth right now. The planet cannot sustain that kind of abuse from humanity that only cares about their selfish wants.

This virus as well as future ones along with increased natural disasters are not surprising. If you abuse the world you live and rely on then expect to have the scales balanced.


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Ro-gan wrote: COVID-19 is just Mother Nature setting things right.

Back in the day the elderly and lame would just wander into the woods/wild leaving the tribes/clans behind. They did this so as not to impose on the quality of living of the society.

We have nearly 9 billion people on Earth right now. The planet cannot sustain that kind of abuse from humanity that only cares about their selfish wants.

This virus as well as future ones along with increased natural disasters are not surprising. If you abuse the world you live and rely on then expect to have the scales balanced.


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