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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #13

Looks like we lost mail of luck :(

I mean Dwarven Mail looks solid, I just like my +saves
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #14

kurtreznor wrote: There is also a common reinforced leather armor. One should be changed?


The +1 of +1 Reinforced Leather Armor on the rare was kind of important, but giving pluses to armor is weird in this game, so one of the two needs renaming or will drive character creator apps nuts.

Most of the names that could replace reinforced are far more appropriate to renaming the Dwarven Mail, which doesn't seem very Dwarven to me. The obvious change to that would seem to be Hard Male, but let's use the thesaurus.

Supported Armor. Assisted Armor. Augmented Armor! Fortified Armor. Stiffened Armor.

So, for Reinforced, Augmented Leather Armor.

For Dwarven Mail, Loose Mail? Supple Mail? Natural Mail? Enhanced Mail? Mail of Comfort?

Pushing the Con angle more, how about Survivor's Mail? Guardian Mail?
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #15

All of the weapons look the same to me, so just gonna quote this:

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+1 Adventurer's Staff: 4.83 Average damage. Staves are usually not usable by Bard and Rogue. Other Staves that Wizards can use cap at 4.5 average damage, so this is an increase.

+1 Assassin's Blade: 4.17 Average damage. Class usage matches +1 Iron Nettle. +1 Iron Nettle did 4.5 average damage, with bonus +3 damage to fey.

+1 Bastard Sword: Reprint. 6.3 Average damage. BIS is +1 Bliss Heavy Axe at 6.63 and +3 damage in Bliss.

+1 Claymore: 7.2 Average damage. New BIS over +1 Nether Dire Flail's 6.7 average damage.

+1 Heavy Mace: Reprint. 5.5 Average damage. On par with many weapons that deal 5.5 average damage.

+1 Short Bow: Reprint. 4.33 Average damage. +1 War Sling can be used by more classes and does 5.5 average damage.

+1 Short Sword: Reprint. 4.5 Average damage. +1 Bliss Hammer is usable by all, does 5.5 average damage and +3 damage in Bliss.

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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #16

+1 Claymore: An uncommon Claymore currently exists with a very different damage wheel... but I really do like the name.

Amulet of Vigor: Seems like a good place for a rare. Leaves some design space for 4-star transmutes.

Dwarven Mail: Never been in love with the art on this one.

Gloves of Healing: "+X to healing, damage spells & polymorph damage" seems to be the most common modern working for this effect.
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #17

Endgame wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, I'm not sure what other changes you made, but thanks for the Amulet of Vigor change. :)

Meh. It's only 1 fort save, but still feels wrong compared to Valhalla


Well - for most of the people using this it's +1 HP and -1 Fort compared to the last version, so at least there's that.
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #18

I would support reinstating the Mail of Luck with it's +1 to saves.

Players need saves in the ~10 range to be 50/50 to save on Hardcore.

It is difficult for several classes to get there today on rare gear.
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #19

Gloves of Focus templating is odd:

+1 to healing, Spells & Polymorph damage

Prior "of focus" items said: +x to healing, damage spells & polymorph damage

Maybe that doesn't fit...
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #20

Am I dreaming, or did the effect of the Scroll Sacred Enchantment completely change from making the entire party's damage sacred to its current form?
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #21

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Matthew Hayward wrote: Am I dreaming, or did the effect of the Scroll Sacred Enchantment completely change from making the entire party's damage sacred to its current form?


That was 2 iteration back.
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #22

Matthew Hayward wrote: I would support reinstating the Mail of Luck with it's +1 to saves.

Players need saves in the ~10 range to be 50/50 to save on Hardcore.

It is difficult for several classes to get there today on rare gear.

I haven't had a huge problem with it due to the cloak of painful luck. I think rouge is the most difficult, and I'm getting +8/+10/+8 there.

Which classes are you seeing the problem?

Edit
Also, see my suggestion for a +2 amulet of protection with +2 ac and +2 saves. Could be printed next year
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #23

For withering runestones do they stack with each other or is the -2 for the entire party?

Like the amulet changes I can live with that.
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2020 Rare Token Images 8 months 2 weeks ago #24

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, I'm not sure what other changes you made, but thanks for the Amulet of Vigor change. :)

Meh. It's only 1 fort save, but still feels wrong compared to Valhalla


Well - for most of the people using this it's +1 HP and -1 Fort compared to the last version, so at least there's that.

Good point.

I withdraw my complaint. Print this one.
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