TOPIC: 2020 Rare Beta Images

I hope you like the Rares! Thanks for the suggestions for improvement.

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Crosspost and updated.
+1 Adventurer's Staff: 4.83 Average damage. Staves are usually not usable by Bard and Rogue. Other Staves that Wizards can use cap at 4.5 average damage, so this is an increase.

+1 Assassin's Blade: 4.17 Average damage. Class usage matches +1 Iron Nettle. +1 Iron Nettle did 4.5 average damage, with bonus +3 damage to fey.

+1 Bastard Sword: Reprint. 6.3 Average damage. BIS is +1 Bliss Heavy Axe at 6.63 and +3 damage in Bliss.

+1 Claymore: 7.2 Average damage. New BIS over +1 Nether Dire Flail's 6.7 average damage.

+1 Heavy Mace: Reprint. 5.5 Average damage. On par with many weapons that deal 5.5 average damage.

+1 Short Bow: Reprint. 4.33 Average damage. +1 War Sling can be used by more classes and does 5.5 average damage.

+1 Short Sword: Reprint. 4.5 Average damage. +1 Bliss Hammer is usable by all, does 5.5 average damage and +3 damage in Bliss.

Overall looks really great, this is one of the best Rare sets in years!

- The Mail losing 1pt is a good compromise to make the UR more appealing.
- Vigor Amulet is too OP in my opinion, +3 max
- Sad to see the Vitality Shirt go but I get why.
- Make Shadow Cloak Transmutable again

JACKOFTRADZE wrote: - Make Shadow Cloak Transmutable again

I'd be excited for that too, but there is no precedent for a transmute returning like that =/

1) I love the +1 Assassin's Blade. Most exciting weapon since the +1 Blowgun Flute.
2) Amulet of Vigor: WAY too strong. Total of +4 to stats, with 2 of those strength and granting +4hp too. Compare to the (volunteer) Amulet of the Hero which only grants +3 between three stats. I think this should be +1 STR and +1 CON and that still makes it an incredible token especially for new players who have odd starting stats.
3) Earcuff of Vitality: good reprint, it is very hard to find them now
4) Gloves of Focus: nice
5) Lyre of Lore: another good reprint
6) Mighty Sling: another good reprint
7) Potion Death's Door: we just had Revival Root, isn't it too soon for another?
8) Quiver of Boosting: I'll use it (does it stack with Quiver of Anointment?)
9) Shadow Cloak: good reprint

Kirk Bauer wrote: 8) Quiver of Boosting: I'll use it (does it stack with Quiver of Anointment?)

I hope not. Similar to how scrolls can only be stored in 1 scroll tube, I hope arrows can only be stored in 1 quiver.

Kirk Bauer wrote: 2) Amulet of Vigor: WAY too strong. Total of +4 to stats, with 2 of those strength and granting +4hp too. Compare to the (volunteer) Amulet of the Hero which only grants +3 between three stats. I think this should be +1 STR and +1 CON and that still makes it an incredible token especially for new players who have odd starting stats.

Disagree completely that is is overpowered. Neck is the only location where a UR stat booster is 4 better than a Rare, and that rare was never in boosters - it was a volunteer token that will have been unavailable for 4 years.

At +4 to stats, Medallion of Valhalla is still +3 boost over the the rare - you don't see this in any other slot.

Examples:
Gauntlets of the Midgard Serpent are +3 str, Mithral Gauntlets are +4 and Gloves of the Brute are +4. 2 point differential.

Belt of the Berserker is the same Str as Girdle of Hill giant strength, and -1 from Girdle of Stone Giant Strength.

Time for Neck to be a powerful slot at rare as opposed to a "Pay to Play" slot.

Oh, hey, +1 Assassins blade is FoB compatible! Its like a +1 Cestus, but with a better, and interesting, damage wheel at 2-2-2-6-6-7

Endgame wrote: Oh, hey, +1 Assassins blade is FoB compatible! Its like a +1 Cestus, but with a better, and interesting, damage wheel at 2-2-2-6-6-7

That damage wheel will make the Assassin prestige class happy, 6's are everyone favorite (yes sarcasm) instant kills.

Why did the wand damage drop to 7?
We already have wands that do 8 and it’s not breaking the game. I would like it to be restored to 8 damage so it matches the last few years wands.

Just noticed the +1 Claymore. Now I want to go watch Highlander...

*Edit*
To be clear, this is now like my favorite names rare token, like, ever. I may use a red build fighter just to use the Claymore.

FiannaTiger wrote:

Endgame wrote: Oh, hey, +1 Assassins blade is FoB compatible! Its like a +1 Cestus, but with a better, and interesting, damage wheel at 2-2-2-6-6-7

That damage wheel will make the Assassin prestige class happy, 6's are everyone favorite (yes sarcasm) instant kills.

I know this is a joke, but I'm pretty sure we already have a rogue melee weapon with 2 6's on it.
I like it for theme, and fob