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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #13

If it helps, our local group who plans to run at GHC, has a facebook group. I posted this update there and already have 3 favorable comments. Many in our group fall into the below level 5 category and are very happy with the change. I wasn't even sure if they cared about xp, but apparently they do.

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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #14

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Dave wrote: As stated in the newsletter, the xp decision is a compromise. I know compromises are supposed to be win-win, but generally they do still leave some people feeling disappointed.

Personally, I'm fine with it.


I don't see how its a compromise. Its a change for sure. Before there was no xp, now there is, but likely not for most of the people who would really care. If I'm remembering the thread where it was argued correctly very few people were advocating for XP below a certain level. Most felt that either there should be xp, shouldn't be xp, or that a compromise would be xp starting next year so people could plan around it.

When originally pitched WYC & GHC were supposed to be more or less equal, now GHC has a unique adventure, unique completion token, and XP for some. Honestly if I had known this was going to be the case I would have planned my TD year differently, and I suspect Im not alone in that. I know Jeff's heart is in the right place, and I'm excited for all the new stuff, but its a heck of a lot of surprises for long term players to have to deal with.

Dave wrote: If it helps, our local group who plans to run at GHC, has a facebook group. I posted this update there and already have 3 favorable comments. Many in our group fall into the below level 5 category and are very happy with the change. I wasn't even sure if they cared about xp, but apparently they do.


Well I'm glad it works for you. Kind of a moot point now since its been announced anyway.
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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #15

Dave wrote: As stated in the newsletter, the xp decision is a compromise. I know compromises are supposed to be win-win, but generally they do still leave some people feeling disappointed.

Personally, I'm fine with it.


Who told you that - a good compromise is one where neither party is satisfied :P .

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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #16

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Dave wrote: As stated in the newsletter, the xp decision is a compromise. I know compromises are supposed to be win-win, but generally they do still leave some people feeling disappointed.

Personally, I'm fine with it.


I don't see how its a compromise. Its a change for sure. Before there was no xp, now there is, but likely not for most of the people who would really care. If I'm remembering the thread where it was argued correctly very few people were advocating for XP below a certain level. Most felt that either there should be xp, shouldn't be xp, or that a compromise would be xp starting next year so people could plan around it.


High level players didn't want the total XP raised, as then those that care about that ranking have to add a new con to their must do list on short notice. New/Low Level/Side Con people wanted XP to count as it does give them a chance to catch up some, and it is a bit silly you can play for years and not actually get XP.

So yes, this does seem like a compromise to me. Low level players get something, at least til they are a Lord or Lady, but top end remains unchanged.

As far as GHC vs WYC, well there is the difference of con admission prices that might spike a seperation, but I would think it possible we will see this implemented at WYC 2017 as well. Then again, I view Gencon to be TD New Years, so I group GHC16 and WYC17 together, not WYC16 and GHC16
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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #17

That sounds like a good solution to me.

So - does that mean that if you're under Level 5, you can get up to 8,000 XP this year? Or if WYC also has a similar system and just one Dungeon, does that mean the max XP is 10,000 this year (if XP from GHC and WYC stack with each other as well as with GENCON)?

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It seemed to me that XP was just for the new adventure, not the "greatest hits" adventure. Am I making a faulty assumption?
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This was one of the compromises discussed earlier. The most supported ideas were players under a certain level could get XP, or there was a XP cap per year regardless of where you earned them.
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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #20

I wasn't expecting this, or really wanting it, but I guess I'll take free XP. Let's see...this means I can hit 4th level at GHC...so what does that get me?

4th: 6,000-9,999 XP - No current benefit at this time.


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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #21

Incognito wrote: Maybe the better implementation is that the XP from GHC cannot bring your total XP to above 10,000 XP?

I concur. See it can happen (Incognito and I agree)!

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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #22

MasterED wrote:

Incognito wrote: Maybe the better implementation is that the XP from GHC cannot bring your total XP to above 10,000 XP?

I concur. See it can happen (Incognito and I agree)!

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I'd agree with that also.

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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #23

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MasterED wrote:

Incognito wrote: Maybe the better implementation is that the XP from GHC cannot bring your total XP to above 10,000 XP?

I concur. See it can happen (Incognito and I agree)!

Ed


I'd agree with that also.


Thanks for the feedback. The issue is not just one Con in 2016. We needed a rule that would be workable for years to come at our non-Gen Con events. It needs to be something easy to understand as well as something the programmer can do -- and "checking level" mechanic seemed to fit best. I could be wrong.
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Newest Newletter 9/27/16 7 years 6 months ago #24

I'm reading the newsletter again.

We are happy to announce that each player of a two-hour adventure at Gamehole Con will be able to claim experience points -- just like can be done at Gen Con. Players will be provided with a card with a unique code which can be entered at the TD website to record XP for your player account.


It just says "a two-hour adventure". This could mean that you can get credit for one run at GHC, regardless of whether you do Deeperdark Redux or Underdark Awaits. If that's the case, then you can only get a maximum of 2000 xp at GHC, not 2000 xp for each run. That interpretation would make sense and put it on par with WYC.

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