TOPIC: XP for sale on Ebay??

Lodestone (KH) wrote:

Forar wrote: Don't get me wrong, I respect the dedicated long term players and the allure of a leaderboard slot. Having a simple "not for resale, not transferable" caveat would probably suffice for most cases. But does anyone really think TD needs a Law Department to fire off C&D or lawsuits because someone decided to try to recoup some of the cost of their ticket? Is one sale worthy of fully changing up how the system works to the detriment of thousands of players? 1 attempted sale (so far) out of, what, 8,000 or so? Seems like a disproportionate response.

Legal would only be needed if it did become a problem. And putting the verbiage on the cards now would head off the defense of 'You didn't say I couldn't' later.

I will give anyone 100:1 odds against there ever being a lawsuit filed by True Adventures against someone for trying to sell an XP card - you pay now, I pay you in the event a suit is filed.

PM me if you'd like to send my your half of this bet.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Lodestone (KH) wrote:

Forar wrote: Don't get me wrong, I respect the dedicated long term players and the allure of a leaderboard slot. Having a simple "not for resale, not transferable" caveat would probably suffice for most cases. But does anyone really think TD needs a Law Department to fire off C&D or lawsuits because someone decided to try to recoup some of the cost of their ticket? Is one sale worthy of fully changing up how the system works to the detriment of thousands of players? 1 attempted sale (so far) out of, what, 8,000 or so? Seems like a disproportionate response.

Legal would only be needed if it did become a problem. And putting the verbiage on the cards now would head off the defense of 'You didn't say I couldn't' later.

I will give anyone 100:1 odds against there ever being a lawsuit filed by True Adventures against someone for trying to sell an XP card - you pay now, I pay you in the event a suit is filed.

PM me if you'd like to send my your half of this bet.

Hmmm, I can see this scenario working. I send Matthew $1,000, I list an XP card, Jeff files a lawsuit, and then Jeff and I split the $100,000 windfall.

Mike Steele wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Lodestone (KH) wrote:

Forar wrote: Don't get me wrong, I respect the dedicated long term players and the allure of a leaderboard slot. Having a simple "not for resale, not transferable" caveat would probably suffice for most cases. But does anyone really think TD needs a Law Department to fire off C&D or lawsuits because someone decided to try to recoup some of the cost of their ticket? Is one sale worthy of fully changing up how the system works to the detriment of thousands of players? 1 attempted sale (so far) out of, what, 8,000 or so? Seems like a disproportionate response.

Legal would only be needed if it did become a problem. And putting the verbiage on the cards now would head off the defense of 'You didn't say I couldn't' later.

I will give anyone 100:1 odds against there ever being a lawsuit filed by True Adventures against someone for trying to sell an XP card - you pay now, I pay you in the event a suit is filed.

PM me if you'd like to send my your half of this bet.

Hmmm, I can see this scenario working. I send Matthew $1,000, I list an XP card, Jeff files a lawsuit, and then Jeff and I split the $100,000 windfall.

Yes . I probably should have said the better can't be a principal in the suit .

Chris Von Wahlde wrote:

bpsymington wrote: I am one of those who cares about my XP - I always enter it the night of the event when I get back to my hotel room.

Me, too.

Me, three.

Lodestone (KH) wrote:

Forar wrote: Don't get me wrong, I respect the dedicated long term players and the allure of a leaderboard slot. Having a simple "not for resale, not transferable" caveat would probably suffice for most cases. But does anyone really think TD needs a Law Department to fire off C&D or lawsuits because someone decided to try to recoup some of the cost of their ticket? Is one sale worthy of fully changing up how the system works to the detriment of thousands of players? 1 attempted sale (so far) out of, what, 8,000 or so? Seems like a disproportionate response.

Legal would only be needed if it did become a problem. And putting the verbiage on the cards now would head off the defense of 'You didn't say I couldn't' later.

Would also give us a clear way to report ebay auctions as a TOC violation. Not suggesting any exessive measures just a simple "not for resale" on the xp cards.

Picc wrote:

Lodestone (KH) wrote:

Forar wrote: Don't get me wrong, I respect the dedicated long term players and the allure of a leaderboard slot. Having a simple "not for resale, not transferable" caveat would probably suffice for most cases. But does anyone really think TD needs a Law Department to fire off C&D or lawsuits because someone decided to try to recoup some of the cost of their ticket? Is one sale worthy of fully changing up how the system works to the detriment of thousands of players? 1 attempted sale (so far) out of, what, 8,000 or so? Seems like a disproportionate response.

Legal would only be needed if it did become a problem. And putting the verbiage on the cards now would head off the defense of 'You didn't say I couldn't' later.

Would also give us a clear way to report ebay auctions as a TOC violation. Not suggesting any exessive measures just a simple "not for resale" on the xp cards.

Exactly this. Put it on the cards and you can ask Ebay to take them down without any questions. No need to worry about possible future lawyer usage, just a quick message (that anyone who comes across it could send, mind you) to Ebay for a TOS violation and the auction is gone.

Ro-gan wrote:

Chris Von Wahlde wrote:

bpsymington wrote: I am one of those who cares about my XP - I always enter it the night of the event when I get back to my hotel room.

Me, too.

Me, three.

I am so close to 9th level I can taste it - basically when I enter room 1 of my first dungeon I'll hit it!

bpsymington wrote:

Ro-gan wrote:

Chris Von Wahlde wrote:

bpsymington wrote: I am one of those who cares about my XP - I always enter it the night of the event when I get back to my hotel room.

Me, too.

Me, three.

I am so close to 9th level I can taste it - basically when I enter room 1 of my first dungeon I'll hit it!

So what does 9th taste like?

Picc wrote:

bpsymington wrote:

Ro-gan wrote:

Chris Von Wahlde wrote:

bpsymington wrote: I am one of those who cares about my XP - I always enter it the night of the event when I get back to my hotel room.

Me, too.

Me, three.

I am so close to 9th level I can taste it - basically when I enter room 1 of my first dungeon I'll hit it!

So what does 9th taste like?

Smoky, hint of cinnamon.

bpsymington wrote:

Picc wrote:

bpsymington wrote:

Ro-gan wrote:

Chris Von Wahlde wrote:

bpsymington wrote: I am one of those who cares about my XP - I always enter it the night of the event when I get back to my hotel room.

Me, too.

Me, three.

I am so close to 9th level I can taste it - basically when I enter room 1 of my first dungeon I'll hit it!

So what does 9th taste like?

Smoky, hint of cinnamon.

You sure thats not Lotusblossom's bourbon XD

Matthew Hayward wrote: Yes . I probably should have said the better can't be a principal in the suit .

Might want to add that not only filing but a verdict is reached. Easy to file and drop a case.

Ed

Looks like they have removed the offer. I personally do have concern about people entering experience, room achieved or dungeon, that they didn't earn. This eBay auction would have taken it another step further.