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TOPIC: $8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts?

$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #1

I will be placing 2 $8K orders this year. I would like to do an auction starting after Wade's finishes (I don't want to interfere with his)(someone please let me know if I am cutting in on the conga line of these :) and missed someone else who is waiting).

I am open to a variety of formats (please give suggestions since mine can't start on the 7th based on Wade's current schedule) but wanted to do something different than what is normally done.


Questions:

1. Is everyone's preference a 2 week period for bidding? Is that too long, too short?

2. Do people prefer ebay format or other options?

3. I like the idea of not disclosing who bid (using code names for them) (I will be assigning muppet character names to bidders) - is this considered a good thing or do people not like it?

4. I was thinking of allowing people to bid with items in lieu of cash and having the item bid be set to specific values (based on Kirk and Trent's sites most likely). Quite a few people may be interested in doing that since it lets them bid with items they may want to get rid of anyway and get some or all of the dollar value for those as part of the bid. I would give a list of valuations of items that would be accepted and a number of those items that can be bid and update the list daily based on bids that come in. What do you think of that idea?


I am planning on keeping a complete set of 2019 URs, 1 onxy set of all tokens below UR, 1 wish ring, 3 of the teeth, (possibly) 1 dragon orb, 2 modules, 2 Patron pins and codes, 4 of the adventurer's guild pins and tokens, (possibly) some of the treasure draws, some of the cherry bombs, and some of the trade goods.

Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thank you!
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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #2

Given that mine "finishes" this weekend, and I have had very little interest, I don't know how much interest there is in general right now.

I will be pulling for you.

I think the style really depends on what you're trying to do.

I think people in general do like the anonymity, though I personally don't care.
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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #3

I have a feeling that the low interest is due to everyone spending all their money in the blitz of auctions in the last 3 weeks. Top that off with having to put down money now for tokens in 3 months and it probably makes a lot of sense

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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #4

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Given that mine "finishes" this weekend, and I have had very little interest, I don't know how much interest there is in general right now.

I will be pulling for you.

I think the style really depends on what you're trying to do.

I think people in general do like the anonymity, though I personally don't care.


With all the auctions lately I bet a lot of people are out of cash for a little while.

I also think it’s why we had $1 trade goods close to the end of all the auctions. Planks were close to $2 each on my auction, likely part of that was, it was the first auction.

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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #5

I am thinking of setting "top-end" values for each item for the bids where once someone bids that amount, they won the item. That mechanism should make the trading element work. Someone could bid, for example, a Charm of Avarice valued at $1,200 and if PYP's are at $120 each, then automatically win 10 PYPs. That way, people can bid more than value of any one item in the list.

Thoughts to help me avoid complications on this that I may not have thought of?

Thank you!

BTW, tentatively the list of items accepted for trade value would be the following (I'll go through the work to set values after getting more feedback on if this idea will even work!):

Trade Goods
Gold

UR's:
Any UR Bardic Instrument
Amulet of Guarding
Redoubt Shield
Redoubt Helm
+1 Mighty Sling
Goggles of Instant Analysis
Kvothe's Bloodless
Ring of Spell Storing
+2 Deadly Drow Mace
Bracers of Fast Fitness
Carter's Tome of Insight
Earcuff of Orbits
Figurine: Panther
Figurine: Phoenix
Figurine: Cat
Figurine: Dragon
Figurine: Owl
Gauntlets of Linked Fury
+2 Sacred Sling
Gloves of Glory
Gloves of the Flying Fists
Ioun Stone Quicksilver Cube
Mad Evoker's Charm
+2 Boom Stick
Bowl of Spirit Sight
Amulet of Treasure Seeking
Charm of Good Fortune
Ioun Stone Onyx Cube
Ioun Stone Trilliant Topaz
Sniper Spectacles
Greater Holy Symbol of Pelor
Mithril Guantlets
+1 Celestial Keen Longsword
+2 Hammer of Thunderbolts
+2 Sling of Impact
Hand of Glory
+2 Flaming Short Bow
+1 Plate Armor
Cloak of Displacement
Templar Items
Celestial Items

Combo or similar items:
Medallion of Greyhawk
Periapt of Proof against Poison

Consumable Items:
Arrows of Slaying
Hourglass of Imprisonment
Savior Stone
Ring of Three Wishes
+3 Ammo of Alteration
Eldritch Runestones
Fallen Star Mushrooms
Mystic Mushrooms
Potions of Distilled Healing

5 pt Relics:
+3 Deathcleaver
+3 Slayer Sword
+3 Viper Strike Fang
Ring of Greater Focus
Blessed Redoubt Helm
Blessed Redoubt Plate
Icecrag's Hero Earcuff
Greater Cloak of Destiny
Draco-Lich Charm

All Legendary Items

Eldritch Relics:
Boots of the Four Winds
Supreme Ring of Elemental Command
Rod of Seven Parts

Dragon Orbs 1 and 2

Relics or higher:
+3 Viper Strike Fang
Greater Ring of Spell Focus
+3 Slayer Sword
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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #6

It's a good point on the money being put down now keeping people away. In my case, I wouldn't need that to occur - just commitments for when everything starts to ship for payments or tokens to be shipped in the case of items being traded in.

I am also ok keeping all the trade goods for this auction as I have a lot of transmuting to be done over the next two years.

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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #7

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Fred,

The trading pre-selected URS/transmuted items is an intriguing idea. I do have ultra-rares on your list that I wouldn't mind 'trading' out for something new.

Though value on tokens can have a huge range depending on the person purchasing or selling. Just because it was listed by others can't dictate what is perceived as a bad deal or good deal.

I wish you luck on your idea. I'll be cheering for you!

*disclosure* - I'll be putting up an Onyx pre-order w/ fixed pricing on Oct 12th. Not sure if it will succeed but hey, never hurts to try.

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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #8

While I wish you lots of luck and success, I do echo the sentiment about the recent large number of auctions. I've participated in several so far and prolly won't be doing anymore until at least after the holidays are through. XD
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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #9

Greetings all. Thank you for your suggestions and for private messages giving me some ideas on how to proceed. I will be going live with the auction Sunday evening. It will run for two weeks.

I have set initial “buy” levels for PYPs and the teeth (meaning if you bid at least that amount in trade and/or cash, that you will automatically win that bid).

I will be auctioning off about 40% of the overall orders of 2 $8K orders. This will not be a contingent auction - the orders will be placed whether specific goals are hit or not. I also will not be requiring payment until after I get shipping confirmation that the placed orders are inbound to me from Jeff/TD.

The big theme will be to let people trade old tokens for pyps and similar.

I look forward to launching this!

Fred
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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 5 months ago #10

Apologies, I will be putting this up on Monday or Tuesday evening - ran out of time today.

Fred
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$8K Order - Trade Option Auction Thoughts? 5 years 4 months ago #11

FYI - This auction is now live and has been getting a good deal of interest. Quite a few items ranging from some of the PYPs to a dragon orb to trade goods still available! Thank you everyone for your suggestions!

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