TOPIC: Will runs shorted completion tokens get those ?

So clearly the computers know who was on which runs Sunday, leaving a simple matter of looking at times to see those that were shorted hardcore, possibly higher, completion tokens (received green instead of reds that 'ran out') will some attempt be made to correct this, or is it just those players fault somehow and tough luck?

It doesn't have to be a player's fault to be tough luck.

Though, some have said the problem involved players turning scheduled Normal runs into Nightmare. If the event organizers printed tokens based on what slots they actually made available, I don't see how the issue is their fault either.

I suggest a simple fix: Have the people at the XP desk verify the scheduled difficulty level that was run by looking at the wristband of whoever turns in the party card. If you signed up for Normal, you get Normal rewards even if your group decided to up it to something else.

The alternative of printing double the number of tokens and pins would be an outrageous expense that we can't expect them to pull off.

I doubt the tokens will be distributed as you ask, and I would not fault them for it.

No.

Runs are not scheduled as hardcore and the reds were for hardcore (and nightmare). Its not possible to know in advance how many hardcore runs there will be. And I don't agree with penalizing groups, particularly pick up groups that can not organize beforehand, for bumping up to hardcore or nightmare. For organized groups, given the challenges of scheduling and obtaining slots, it is not good to penalize them for switching to nightmare.

Remember this was the first year the hardcore runs were a thing so I don't think anyone could have really been expected to know exactly how many groups would run at that difficulty. I'm sure Jeff and co took their best guess and if hardcore is available again next year I'm sure they will have a better idea of how many completion tokens they need to print. Its not anyone fault, just a side effect of trying something new.

Sadly there also isnt much you can do about groups changing the difficulty of runs on the fly. I saw several groups this change scheduled nightmare runs to normal when half the people who showed up were newbies who just bought the tickets because they were available. So I don't even think you could realistically depend on checking wristband time against the schedule even if it accounted for groups that spontaneously upgraded.

It's frustrating to not get the reward you were expecting (technically I was shorted a few red stones too) and while its not a perfect system despite everyone involved trying their best to make it so you just have to roll with it.

If your not happy with the way something turned out take it to Jeff. In my experience he bends over backward to address customer concerns wherever he can.

I know this isn't the answer you are looking for, we did upgrade 2 of our normal runs for Nightmare since the Nightmares we wanted were sold out. I don't think the option to force players to do just normal runs is the answer, that leaves flexibility out of the runs, especially when Nightmare runs sell out or don't meet the times you can run.

Unfortunately I didn't run a bunch of Lycan events, I stayed mostly with Golem event, we liked the story like for Golem.

I may have some Fey stuff to sell / trade.

I don't see how it is "penalizing" anyone to give out the exact token that was advertised for their time slot.

It seems unreasonable to expect them to print thousands of extra red tokens just in case players change their Normal runs to something else.

Actually, I was not aware the rare completion tokens were also for Hardcore. I don't recall seeing that anywhere. Although I know it was discussed at some point, I was under the impression that the final decision was to reserve them for Nightmare. The people I interacted with at the XP desk this year confirmed that, so I really don't understand what the problem is.

The whole issue could certainly use some clarification and solidification though. The whole Hardcore issue was the monkey wrench it seems.

Participation rewards were

Normal = Green, button, 1k xp
Hardcore = Red, button, 2k xp
Nightmare = Red & Green, nightmare button, 2k xp

Picc your XP might be off because it could depend on what room someone died in (if they died).

Picc wrote: Participation rewards were

Normal = Green, button, 1k xp
Hardcore = Red, button, 2k xp
Nightmare = Red & Green, nightmare button, 2k xp

I worked the XP desk on Thursday and that is what I was told to give.

You've always been allowed to change difficulty settings on the fly, up or down. Per the website, the default is the published setting unless everyone involved agrees to another setting. And yes that makes planning harder but it's published TD policy.

We also had a Nightmare run that 5 new people signed up on due to it was the only one available we dropped down to Hardcore and let them use tokens. It gives the group flexibility, without that flexibility we would have been stuck in Nightmare combat with newbies. Which we could have pushed through but they would have died for sure.

jedibcg wrote: Picc your XP might be off because it could depend on what room someone died in (if they died).

Your right, I should have said 1k or 2k max