TOPIC: Super Almost Final List of Mark of Enlightenment Powers

I also kind of want a St. Sola Mark that just says “Not a member of the 10 saints.”

Who knows what splendorous adventures await someone equipped with such an ability!

Matthew Hayward wrote: I also kind of want a St. Sola Mark that just says “Not a member of the 10 saints.”

Who knows what splendorous adventures await someone equipped with such an ability!

Give me a Saint Grunnel option and I'm probably taking it every day of the week.

Maggie Geppert wrote:

archmage78 wrote:

Maggie Geppert wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, that list looks amazing! It makes me wish I'd gotten a Mark of Enlightenment! Hopefully everyone finds at least one option they like. I like that there are bonuses for melee, ranged, spell combat, and healing.

I was actually thinking that the powers aren't so crazy powerful that I feel bad for not making a Mark, so kudos on that design.

And if you want proof positive this comment right here says it all. You are celebrating the fact that you didn't buy a token because the tokens not good enough. First of all shame on you for saying this and secondly shame on you true dungeon for allowing this to happen.

I'm new here. I didn't get a chance to get all the fragments, and it's pretty much impossible to catch up, since I don't see Fragments 2 or 3 anywhere on the open market. I've had a hard enough time catching up on the Greaves and Rings, which are much more attainable goals than the Fragments. So, from that perspective, making the Mark so that it's not a "must have" is really good design. I'm sorry you're feeling bad about the reduced power levels, but I won't apologize for my relief in this area.

I’m sorry you’re being personally attacked for expressing a completely reasonable opinion.

I hope this doesn’t discourage you from continuing to contribute here. We benefit tremendously from new voices in the forums.

Maggie Geppert wrote:

archmage78 wrote:

Maggie Geppert wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, that list looks amazing! It makes me wish I'd gotten a Mark of Enlightenment! Hopefully everyone finds at least one option they like. I like that there are bonuses for melee, ranged, spell combat, and healing.

I was actually thinking that the powers aren't so crazy powerful that I feel bad for not making a Mark, so kudos on that design.

And if you want proof positive this comment right here says it all. You are celebrating the fact that you didn't buy a token because the tokens not good enough. First of all shame on you for saying this and secondly shame on you true dungeon for allowing this to happen.

I'm new here. I didn't get a chance to get all the fragments, and it's pretty much impossible to catch up, since I don't see Fragments 2 or 3 anywhere on the open market. I've had a hard enough time catching up on the Greaves and Rings, which are much more attainable goals than the Fragments. So, from that perspective, making the Mark so that it's not a "must have" is really good design. I'm sorry you're feeling bad about the reduced power levels, but I won't apologize for my relief in this area.

Do you still need rings / greaves? If so shoot me a message with which ones you need, I have some extras I need to unload.

archmage78 wrote: And to respond the the people pointing out it's free, lol, no it's 8 thousand dollars. Where do you think the majority of the 8k orders come from? I'll give you the answer auctions that break the 8 k order apart. People spend lots of money on the patron "free" token which means lots of 8 k orders succeed which in turn makes Jeff a lot of money. Continue to make the end result so weak that no one wants to invest in them and it equates to less 8 k orders. And the comment I responded to was the exact proof of what I pointed out and completely relevant and not inappropriate at all despite your sudden mock anger.

The URs, Trade Goods, Rings, etc, all have value. The 8k bonus is highly variable in value and certainly not worth 8k. If you need help establishing the actual value of the token, I'd be happy to walk you through it.

As for expected power, and from the perspective of someone who is making one to get "Crafted by Endgame" written at the bottom, power in the realm of the dragon orbs is absolutely fine. I'm really starting to look forward to the idea of being able to wear both my Pern's and another head (which is almost certainly going to be Cranston's).

Question - Is it still planned to fit all the powers on the text of the token?

And my 2 cents is that I am excited to see the powers and think they’re in the ballpark of what I was expecting for paragon tokens. I like Lorca and Stern in particular.

Hi Jeff!

For this ability, does it have to be an ally that died in the current room, or can it be one that died in a previous room?

St. Gubb
May use Eldritch Runestone effect (1/game)
1/Game: When you die another ally comes back to life with 1HP

Thanks!
Mike

Matthew Hayward wrote: I’m sorry you’re being personally attacked for expressing a completely reasonable opinion.

I hope this doesn’t discourage you from continuing to contribute here. We benefit tremendously from new voices in the forums.

Thank you! As I have explained elsewhere, I am the Executive Officer of the players' committee for the Star Trek CCG (#shamelessplug for trekcc.org ). No one in the WORLD gets in nerd fights like a) Star Trek fans who b) play a dead CCG, so my skin is pretty thick.

Matthew Hayward wrote: I like how flavorful these are.

Nice work Impy!

For the:

St. Gubb
May use Eldritch Runestone effect (1/game)

What does the 1/game mean? Often eldritch runestone effects don’t mesh with the action economy, but provide some kind of a static bonus.

tokendb.com/token/eldritch-runestone/ Each of the abilities are basically per run (+1 bead, +2 saves, etc.), so I think it's just saying "you get the benefit of eldritch runestone each run".

archmage78 wrote:

Maggie Geppert wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, that list looks amazing! It makes me wish I'd gotten a Mark of Enlightenment! Hopefully everyone finds at least one option they like. I like that there are bonuses for melee, ranged, spell combat, and healing.

I was actually thinking that the powers aren't so crazy powerful that I feel bad for not making a Mark, so kudos on that design.

And if you want proof positive this comment right here says it all. You are celebrating the fact that you didn't buy a token because the tokens not good enough. First of all shame on you for saying this and secondly shame on you true dungeon for allowing this to happen.

While I share your frustration and disappointment with these proposals, we shouldn’t be surprised after the orbs.

Personal attacks destroy your argument and lose you people who would otherwise agree with you.

And of course, I am still begging to let these be choose at start, much like the elder and eldest orbs are, rather than select once and never change ever no matter what

Keep in mind, my perspective is additional damage isn't a big appeal.

The #1 appeal to this token is our names get to be on them. That's absolutely huge.
I'd vote for everyone having something unique even if the abilities are objectively dumb
A token that has my name on it and grants immunity to damage from sheep would be ideal.

We could create a list of 100 dumb and funny abilities and everyone who makes one gets to draw three choices. Once a choice is made, that option is gone. None of the abilities would need to go much beyond a common if nobody else had them.

Examples:
Immunity to damage from sheep
Ability to cast "Marvin's Apocalyptic Instant Death Spell - no save!" (Instantly kills an opponent or NPC named Marvin somewhere.)(Yes, old Bard's Tale reference there.)
+1 to bardic bonuses but only when the player sings theme songs from 1970's TV shows
You can polymorph into a Flumph! Special ability (combat only): fly at a slow speed - vulnerability to all damage and becomes helpless in anything more than a light breeze
Immunity to iocane powder (Inconceivable!)

Summary - Flavor trumps power. Let's keep it fun Hey - maybe the silly stuff can be a separate add-on beyond the "serious" powers.