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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #13

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #14

AAckeret wrote: Is the implication here, that people who play TD should only be able to gather in virtual or real places that are officially organized by TD? That what they do with information found in dungeons must be discussed only in sanctioned spots? That people who own tokens should only do things with their tokens in a spot determined by others?

I don’t think that’s just an implication….

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #15

AAckeret wrote: Is the implication here, that people who play TD should only be able to gather in virtual or real places that are officially organized by TD? That what they do with information found in dungeons must be discussed only in sanctioned spots? That people who own tokens should only do things with their tokens in a spot determined by others?


They probably also want us to all convert our physical tokens to digital only tradable through a TD managed store that only displays them at a set price never able to go lower.

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #16

Kusig wrote:

AAckeret wrote: Is the implication here, that people who play TD should only be able to gather in virtual or real places that are officially organized by TD? That what they do with information found in dungeons must be discussed only in sanctioned spots? That people who own tokens should only do things with their tokens in a spot determined by others?


They probably also want us to all convert our physical tokens to digital only tradable through a TD managed store that only displays them at a set price never able to go lower.


I assume there is a joke here that I don't get, but TD has never implied that.
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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #17

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

Kusig wrote:

AAckeret wrote: Is the implication here, that people who play TD should only be able to gather in virtual or real places that are officially organized by TD? That what they do with information found in dungeons must be discussed only in sanctioned spots? That people who own tokens should only do things with their tokens in a spot determined by others?


They probably also want us to all convert our physical tokens to digital only tradable through a TD managed store that only displays them at a set price never able to go lower.


I assume there is a joke here that I don't get, but TD has never implied that.


I think it's more like... if someone is unhappy that Grunnel is "selling" his own personal tokens for puzzle answers and silly games, how do we decide whose version of selling and trading tokens is acceptable?

ETA: For example, I have just given all my tinker bits to my brother in law. Not traded, just gave. I did it because I like him and he would like to make a totem. Someone else might be upset that I'm giving away tokens worth $20 each but not to them... but that's not their business.

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #18

Rachel Stemm wrote:

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

Kusig wrote:

AAckeret wrote: Is the implication here, that people who play TD should only be able to gather in virtual or real places that are officially organized by TD? That what they do with information found in dungeons must be discussed only in sanctioned spots? That people who own tokens should only do things with their tokens in a spot determined by others?


They probably also want us to all convert our physical tokens to digital only tradable through a TD managed store that only displays them at a set price never able to go lower.


I assume there is a joke here that I don't get, but TD has never implied that.


I think it's more like... if someone is unhappy that Grunnel is "selling" his own personal tokens for puzzle answers and silly games, how do we decide whose version of selling and trading tokens is acceptable?

ETA: For example, I have just given all my tinker bits to my brother in law. Not traded, just gave. I did it because I like him and he would like to make a totem. Someone else might be upset that I'm giving away tokens worth $20 each but not to them... but that's not their business.


Exactly this. I'm saying the fun police probably want everyone and everything to be super locked down. Not TD

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #19

As a collector and one that has spent wayyyyy more than I should I want to point out that most of the people that get "free" items are the same people that are giving away more "free" stuff. The people that are the big supporters of TD want the game and community to grow. Without new players and new interest, there is no future. Yes, some may be shown some extra love for their excessive support but, these are the people that you see at cons giving away free starter bags, buying snacks for the volunteers, and helping new players with extra treasure pulls. This may be a big misunderstanding as to how tokens are acquired. In the end TD, and the majority of the community, goes out of their way to make sure everyone is included in the fun and experience of the game.

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #20

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As someone who just started getting more into TD this year learning about the puzzle things really excited me. I thought it was such a cool and nice thing for anyone to do. I think without something like this I would find it very easy to fall out of the TD loop with the long times between events.

If people are concerned with it not being on the forums, why not have links to the unofficial discords here. I say this because forums are not conducive for that level of discussion, so one of us could just have a post with links on it.

Also I don't like the unspoken implication of this complaint. If spending large sums of is the only correct way to be part of the TD community then I don't think that is a community I want to be a part of. If we're gonna be here complaining about people from the kindness of their hearts doing cool events and giving items away... Well that just is not a place I wish to be.

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #21

Impy wrote: Also I don't like the unspoken implication of this complaint. If spending large sums of is the only correct way to be part of the TD community then I don't think that is a community I want to be a part of. If we're gonna be here complaining about people from the kindness of their hearts doing cool events and giving items away... Well that just is not a place I wish to be.


Exactly this.

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #22

Impy wrote: As someone who just started getting more into TD this year learning about the puzzle things really excited me. I thought it was such a cool and nice thing for anyone to do. I think without something like this I would find it very easy to fall out of the TD loop with the long times between events.

If people are concerned with it not being on the forums, why not have links to the unofficial discords here. I say this because forums are not conducive for that level of discussion, so one of us could just have a post with links on it.

Also I don't like the unspoken implication of this complaint. If spending large sums of is the only correct way to be part of the TD community then I don't think that is a community I want to be a part of. If we're gonna be here complaining about people from the kindness of their hearts doing cool events and giving items away... Well that just is not a place I wish to be.


If that is how my comment came across I do apologize. all I meant is we have an amazing community here. the fact is some spend more than other and its the same way in real world, I have never seen one who spends more than another put that player down or treat them like the were less. if anything I have seen them show more kindness, offer better deals just to allow them access to things they may not get for a while just to help that player and fire up that adventure inside us all. The kindness and friendship here is amazing from Jeff and even other place I have been here. I do hope my original post did not upset others. I tried my best to read it many times before posting to make sure I was saying how I felt without targeting others or having players feel that they are important unless they spend everything they have. I have seen auctions for the community including Grunnel and then we have our wishing well designed to help new players see the love we have for TD and each other. This is one reason I am hesitant about posting in threads like this. its hard to heard my voice and understand that I am trying to be supportive of all our community.

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #23

BeLinda Mathie wrote: The meta puzzle Discord is free and open to all. It’s a bit of optional, extra fun that keeps the TD spirit alive between cons/VTDs. I haven’t had time to follow it closely in the last few months, but I’m happy for those who are. They are putting in extra effort—I have no problem with them getting extra rewards.

Being upset about the meta puzzles strikes me as odd. Anyone can play. It would be like being upset about Trent’s party and raffle at GHC. Trent has generously chosen to host a party. It’s open to all. It’s not unfair to the people who can’t go to GHC. If you want to enter the raffle, you can. (Either by attending or asking someone who is attending to participate on your behalf.) If you you don’t enter, you shouldn’t be upset that some of those who do will win prizes. I probably won’t submit any entries, but I still plan to cheer for anyone who wins.


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Complaining about others getting something that you could have gotten if you took the effort but didn’t is very much a YOU problem.

As for why discord rather than the forums - discord is a better tool for rapid responses (needed for those puzzles.) The same logic applies to why the forums rather than by postal mail.

The TD community, by overwhelming majorities, love that there are multiple layers to this game. Beyond the short term meta-puzzles, there are much longer duration muta puzzles that can take multiple years. Often little hints at something happening reward those that are paying attention to the little details.

As a hint, the last time we had a Multi-step monster bit transmute, finding the transmute recipe was a meta puzzle. 2023 has another of those transmutes.

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Tokens for puzzles 1 year 5 months ago #24

Lequinian wrote: Ok, I’m away from solid internet so I can’t respond to everyone, but before this spirals too far…

Individuals can do as they wish with their tokens. Period.

Companies that run contests have state and federal rules. Generally nobody here is going to be so butthurt as to try a lawsuit to enforce them, but declaring the contest, the condition, the prize, the dates, and the winners is common courtesy.

Trent’s GHC event is great. He pre announced everything and it’s open to attendees. I think of it as him being awesome and great marketing for his site.

People can congregate wherever they want with whomever they want. But let’s be clear, discord requires …well discord … and (last I checked) has a set of rules before granting access. (PM me and we can discuss my objection to the rules that I have seen.). So access to the thread is not exactly open and free.

I thought the Orion Belt was a great Puzzle. It was open to all solvers and opened a transmute to everyone. More please.

I thought the Mystic Orb transmute wasn’t great, but I figured it was widely known and word of mouth would get to everyone. Perhaps hypocritically.

If the meta puzzle is officially sanctioned, then it would be nice if people put their work on the official forum. That’s a choice I guess.

So my complaint would be if the giveaway is from TD officially. If it were an individual, good for them for building the community - Laz’s GT giveaways are great examples. If it’s a TD employee, that gets murky for me but not enough to stress. I think the work of the team to support community (through giving tokens, engagement, scroll of a favor, etc) is great.

The token itself or financial value of it is somewhat irrelevant at some point - yes if it were a random rare nobody would care, but a UR+ starts to feel like favoritism. Imagine the GM giving his buddy a +10 vorpal and you a rusty +1 dagger.

And… the kids are back so I’ve got to bolt…

Again… individual - whatever. Company behind discord wall, concerns.


There is jo “discord wall.” That is like saying there is a “forum wall” where people can get better deals on tokens so the whole system is unfair.

I am personally selling tokens RIGHT NOW for 1/5th the cost of a $250 order. This is both on the forums and on discord. Does that mean there is favoritism because i’m not being disallowed to sell URs cheaply to volunteers and newer players?

Sorry - what anyone does with their own personal collections is their business. That is what is happening with the discord channel.

As for the mystic orb puzzle angering people - those commenters are VASTLY overvaluing their own whining. As usual. 99% of the community supported that as they did with Orion’s Belt.

I’m disappointed in the Karen attitude being shown by a small number of people to try and spoil the fun for everyone else.

On top of that, the timing of trying to cause trouble with TD right now considering what just personally happened to Lori and Jeff is completely classless.
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