TOPIC: 2022 Treasure Sheet

Powerblade3 wrote: Hello everyone! I'm part of the party that pulled the 5 URs. I didn't realize this would get this much attention! Also, I need to apologize, because there was a bit of a misunderstanding both within my group and on my own part. For about half of my group it was their first VTD, who misunderstood the difference between the 10-pack and pulls, and they opened my own treasure on my behalf. For the rest of the party it came down to a miscommunication in the moment indicating they had the same thing happen (it's exciting!), and I dutifully plugged in the results for everyone. I apologize for this, and feel I have a bit of egg on my face for too hastily inputting our results. Because I can't retroactively separate the 10-packs and pulls of my friends, I've removed our 5 rows from the sheet, and I doubt our 10 combined pulls will have much effect on the results (besides the URs, there was nothing pulled above Rares).

However, we still did legitimately pull 5 URs out of each of our five 10-packs (Earcuff of the Ravager, Goggles of the Deadshot, Gloves of the Deadshot, Lucky Kilt, Butterfly Cloak), which although not technically within the scope of this thread, still strikes me as notable and incredibly fortuitous. If we assume each 10-pack has a 1% chance of an UR per marketing materials, then the odds of exactly 5 packs each yielding an UR is (1/100)^5 or one in ten billion (feel free to correct me if I'm missing something here). Unless we won the Powerball with plenty of odds to spare, this definitely feels outside the normal curve, so I suspect that there was some benevolent force (or goblin) involved with my group's luck. Though I'm not sure if it's possible to "fix" 10-packs? Either way, whether it's incredible cosmic fortune or a blessing from the Gods or goblins, I'm very grateful.

First, I say congrats! Most of all, I hope everyone had fun playing. Regardless of circumstances, I'm glad you got to experience the thrill of pulling an UR (starter pack or treasure). It really is special.

Yeah, I agree the odds of what happened are about 1 in 10 billion, so it does seem like you may have had some goblin help along the way. With regards to the spreadsheet, don't feel like you did anything wrong, but it does make most sense to pull those out. At least from my perspective, the intent of the spreadsheet is to help the community understand the current mix of treasure and the odds of pulling certain items. What happened to you just doesn't feel totally random, but I'll never complain about divine intervention (goblin god or otherwise).

V8 added.

Dave wrote:

Powerblade3 wrote: Hello everyone! I'm part of the party that pulled the 5 URs. I didn't realize this would get this much attention! Also, I need to apologize, because there was a bit of a misunderstanding both within my group and on my own part. For about half of my group it was their first VTD, who misunderstood the difference between the 10-pack and pulls, and they opened my own treasure on my behalf. For the rest of the party it came down to a miscommunication in the moment indicating they had the same thing happen (it's exciting!), and I dutifully plugged in the results for everyone. I apologize for this, and feel I have a bit of egg on my face for too hastily inputting our results. Because I can't retroactively separate the 10-packs and pulls of my friends, I've removed our 5 rows from the sheet, and I doubt our 10 combined pulls will have much effect on the results (besides the URs, there was nothing pulled above Rares).

However, we still did legitimately pull 5 URs out of each of our five 10-packs (Earcuff of the Ravager, Goggles of the Deadshot, Gloves of the Deadshot, Lucky Kilt, Butterfly Cloak), which although not technically within the scope of this thread, still strikes me as notable and incredibly fortuitous. If we assume each 10-pack has a 1% chance of an UR per marketing materials, then the odds of exactly 5 packs each yielding an UR is (1/100)^5 or one in ten billion (feel free to correct me if I'm missing something here). Unless we won the Powerball with plenty of odds to spare, this definitely feels outside the normal curve, so I suspect that there was some benevolent force (or goblin) involved with my group's luck. Though I'm not sure if it's possible to "fix" 10-packs? Either way, whether it's incredible cosmic fortune or a blessing from the Gods or goblins, I'm very grateful.

First, I say congrats! Most of all, I hope everyone had fun playing. Regardless of circumstances, I'm glad you got to experience the thrill of pulling an UR (starter pack or treasure). It really is special.

Yeah, I agree the odds of what happened are about 1 in 10 billion, so it does seem like you may have had some goblin help along the way. With regards to the spreadsheet, don't feel like you did anything wrong, but it does make most sense to pull those out. At least from my perspective, the intent of the spreadsheet is to help the community understand the current mix of treasure and the odds of pulling certain items. What happened to you just doesn't feel totally random, but I'll never complain about divine intervention (goblin god or otherwise).

The Goblin is a leader, no god.

Well, we did have a body outline in tape at gamehole con, and I saw her/him/they later alive so either fake death news, or came back from the dead, or a second goblin died and their body outlines look all the same to me.

or maybe, it is like the dread pirate roberts?

The denominator for columns G, H, and I in VT8 seems to be one row off.

Crazy pulls 22 monster bits +1 turkey leg of smiting some trade goods and a greater charm bracelet.

James wrote: Crazy pulls 22 monster bits +1 turkey leg of smiting some trade goods and a greater charm bracelet.

Fantastic! Congrats!

copied from the USPS follies thred:

Well, not too bad. 46 pulls got me a Gloves of the Deadshot UR, a Minotaur Hide, 6 monster bits, 2 mechanical bits, a +1 turkey leg, an amulet, and more rares than uncommons.

Still none of the new greaves, seems odd.

I think something is wrong with the equations to calculate percentages. For example, MB% equation is "=E29/B30" which is showing a non result because I am in row 29 and no one's in row 30. It is this way for all the entries. Please investigate.

Why isn't Havoc relic split out separately?

And, yes, at least one formula doesn't make sense.

Ian Lee wrote: Why isn't Havoc relic split out separately?

And, yes, at least one formula doesn't make sense.

tokendb.com/token/greater-ring-of-havoc/
There is only one Havoc. I am currently on vacation I will fix the % issue when I return to my computer tomorrow. Thank you for everyone that has chimed in about it.

jedibcg wrote:

Ian Lee wrote: Why isn't Havoc relic split out separately?

And, yes, at least one formula doesn't make sense.

tokendb.com/token/greater-ring-of-havoc/
There is only one Havoc. I am currently on vacation I will fix the % issue when I return to my computer tomorrow. Thank you for everyone that has chimed in about it.

I think what he means is there’s a column for relic bracelets but not relic ring, if you pull the relic ring you have to put it in relic other.