TOPIC: Questor's Charm of Luck Update

Mike Steele wrote:

Druegar wrote:

jedibcg banjo 000 hides well wrote: Just for clarity another token (like Wade pointed out) could let you reroll a rerolled 1 correct?

Currently, because there isn't a rule* specifically stating otherwise, that's the case. But I wouldn't bank on it staying that way. One mulligan is fine. Using loopholes to re-roll ad infinitum is a sleaze that needs to be eliminated.

*Some tokens specifically say they have limited uses. E.g., Anti-toxin clearly says it's only usable 1/room. As always, a specific token rule overrides a general rule.

I like that. There should be some element of danger. I wouldn't mind even more danger being added - like maybe a monster always hits on a 18-20, regardless of someone's AC.

Or you could play on a harder difficulty.

I am ok with the ruling. It seems reasonable actually.

However I'd just like to point out that the 2019 version of Questor's has the wording "+1 to saves & re-roll any save if "1" is rolled". It does not contain the word "once".

The 2019 QTR also says "Questor’s Charm of Luck: adds +1 to all saving throws; the player may re-roll any saving throw result of 1—even if consecutive 1s are rolled."

So it seems at some point the initial intent changed.

Reap wrote: I am ok with the ruling. It seems reasonable actually.

However I'd just like to point out that the 2019 version of Questor's has the wording "+1 to saves & re-roll any save if "1" is rolled". It does not contain the word "once".

The 2019 QTR also says "Questor’s Charm of Luck: adds +1 to all saving throws; the player may re-roll any saving throw result of 1—even if consecutive 1s are rolled."

So it seems at some point the initial intent changed.

Wording on initial L&L UR images for 2019 was "re-roll any save once if "1" is rolled". There was then discussion on L&L subforum about this wording being a nerf and not matching the clarification that was in TokenDB at that time. The wording on the first public UR images for 2019 was then changed to "re-roll any save if "1" is rolled" and stayed that way.

I think even the new wording is fine with this interpretation. I mean a reroll isnt a true save roll, it's a reroll. The charm in either printing only effects saves.

I wo Derek though, what happens if you have multiple ways to reroll 1s, for example your a bard with the legendary lute, questors, and really bad luck.