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TOPIC: Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight

Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight 5 years 2 days ago #1

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Hopefully I won't regret asking this, but I suspect it may be important for some runs I plan to do at Origins...

The new Lenses of Divine Sight don't appear to require an action to activate (unlike the old ones). This says to me that once per room I could use the Cabal Set bonus to cast two healing spells at their full bonus (one as Standard Action and one as Free Action), and split each of them across two targets. Right?

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Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight 5 years 1 day ago #2

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Yep also bracers of zephyr make the action economy worth it again. No charm tax for wisdom now too.

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Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight 5 years 1 day ago #3

The Cabal Set also adds a bonus to healing with Bracelets of the Cabal , in addition to adding another target on healing scrolls, Gloves of the Cabal . Add the Earcuff of Energy with Lenses of Divine Sight , which now affects scrolls in addition to spells, and you have quite a set.

If you have enough healing from the Eldritch Sets, you can forego the Bracelets of the Cabal for the Bracelets of the Zephyr as James suggests.

Either way, lots of healing.

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Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight 5 years 1 day ago #4

Cranston wrote: The Cabal Set also adds a bonus to healing with Bracelets of the Cabal , in addition to adding another target on healing scrolls, Gloves of the Cabal . Add the Earcuff of Energy with Lenses of Divine Sight , which now affects scrolls in addition to spells, and you have quite a set.

If you have enough healing from the Eldritch Sets, you can forego the Bracelets of the Cabal for the Bracelets of the Zephyr as James suggests.

Either way, lots of healing.


I’m not sure what you are saying about the Earcuff of Energy exactly, but thought I should point out Earcuff if Energy doesn’t work together with either LoDS or Bracelets of the Zephyr.

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Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight 5 years 1 day ago #5

Nor would the Bracelets of the Zephyr work with LoDS.
Bracelets of the Zephyr
The bonus spell is “cast as a scroll” so it may not be modified by skill tests or other enhancements which normally apply to spells, nor may it be duplicated by other items/effects.

I am looking for the ruling about cast as a scroll is not a scroll just that it is cast that way because I am pretty sure that has been ruled previously. IE cast as a scroll is not affected by Arcane Tube.

www.truedungeon.com/forum?view=topic&catid=572&id=244227&start=12#271168
Tokens that modify actual scrolls do not modify spells "cast as a scroll".
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Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight 5 years 1 day ago #6

jedibcg wrote: Nor would the Bracelets of the Zephyr work with LoDS.
Bracelets of the Zephyr
The bonus spell is “cast as a scroll” so it may not be modified by skill tests or other enhancements which normally apply to spells, nor may it be duplicated by other items/effects.

I am looking for the ruling about cast as a scroll is not a scroll just that it is cast that way because I am pretty sure that has been ruled previously. IE cast as a scroll is not affected by Arcane Tube.

www.truedungeon.com/forum?view=topic&catid=572&id=244227&start=12#271168
Tokens that modify actual scrolls do not modify spells "cast as a scroll".

I stand corrected. Thanks for the link.

I will stand in the corner for the next hour. :laugh: :)

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Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight 5 years 1 day ago #7

What other interesting combos could be made if the new Lenses of Divine Sight didn't require any kind of formal action to use?
Have you looked it up in the TDb ?
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Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight 5 years 1 day ago #8

Druegar wrote: What other interesting combos could be made if the new Lenses of Divine Sight didn't require any kind of formal action to use?

What about Crown of Expertise . It's use must be in 2 different rounds. Another option is Ring of Spell Storing , which allows a spell to be cast as a free action. My question would be whether the Lenses of Divine Sight, with a Ring of Spell Storing would apply to a spell cast as a free action and a spell cast as a standard action in the same round?

In that case you could cast a Cure Serious with the Ring of Spell for free, as a free action, and as a standard action spell. Potentially you could get 48 hit points (+ bonus twice) of curing to split between 4 characters, but only once per game.

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Cabal Set plus new Lenses of Divine Sight 5 years 22 hours ago #9

Druegar wrote: What other interesting combos could be made if the new Lenses of Divine Sight didn't require any kind of formal action to use?


Here are the caster uses of Free Action that a change to LoDS's action requirement:
Medallion of Mystic Mouth wand as FA
Cabal Set 2nd Spell as FA
Ring of Spell Storing stored spell as FA
Bracelets of the Zephyr spell from card as a scroll as FA
Shield of the Scholar read a scroll as a FA
Lenses of Sage Speed read a scroll as a FA if preconditions conditions are met

Other things:
Various ways to quaff a potion as a FA
Various ways to apply an oil as a FA
Use a FoP on the same turn as takings

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