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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #13

Dave wrote:

Harlax wrote:

Brad wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Harlax wrote: Will the bead Transmute be available at Origins?

probably


Origins is before Gencon right?

how will you be able to transmute beads before the monster bits make it in to the treasure boxes? or will the E3 monster bits be in earlier treasure boxes?


Origins is in Mid June.

Last year all four bits were in the Origins boxes. Of course, just because it was that way last year doesn’t mean it will be so this year. But if only the E1 and E2 bits are in the Origins boxes, that will lead to a massive imbalance in monster bit pulls.


It also means they'd have to prepare two different treasure mixes, one containing only E1 and E2 monster bits and then a new mix for Gen Con with all 6. If they have any left over treasure tokens from Origins, what do they do with them? You can't just dump them back in the mixer without messing up the distribution for Gen Con. Using last year as a precedence, I would be highly surprised if we don't see all 6 monster bits in the Origins treasure boxes.

Agreed. all 6 are likely in at Origins. If you don’t want spoilers for e3 then just don’t get treasure at origins. save your chips for gen con or don’t open your treasure if you are getting the bags.
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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #14

jedibcg wrote:

Dave wrote:

Harlax wrote:

Brad wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Harlax wrote: Will the bead Transmute be available at Origins?

probably


Origins is before Gencon right?

how will you be able to transmute beads before the monster bits make it in to the treasure boxes? or will the E3 monster bits be in earlier treasure boxes?


Origins is in Mid June.

Last year all four bits were in the Origins boxes. Of course, just because it was that way last year doesn’t mean it will be so this year. But if only the E1 and E2 bits are in the Origins boxes, that will lead to a massive imbalance in monster bit pulls.


It also means they'd have to prepare two different treasure mixes, one containing only E1 and E2 monster bits and then a new mix for Gen Con with all 6. If they have any left over treasure tokens from Origins, what do they do with them? You can't just dump them back in the mixer without messing up the distribution for Gen Con. Using last year as a precedence, I would be highly surprised if we don't see all 6 monster bits in the Origins treasure boxes.

Agreed. all 6 are likely in at Origins. If you don’t want spoilers for e3 then just don’t get treasure at origins. save your chips for gen con or don’t open your treasure if you are getting the bags.


I would like to see all the bits at origins. Many players have migrated to origins due to the cost of gencon, I kind of hate to see them miss out on the bits like they did the 2 dungeons. That might make some bitter people.

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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #15

personally I think the monster bits for the events only should be in the boxes.
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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #16

Brad wrote: personally I think the monster bits for the events only should be in the boxes.


Let’s run that out to its logical conclusion. Only the bits relevant to a dungeon should be in the box/bags for that dungeon.

But I can’t imagine anyone wanting that.


Unless all dungeons are available at all venues, there will be an imbalance of distribution, particularly for people who only go to Origins or who only go to GHC.
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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #17

E 3 should be at the other cons next year so the monster bits will appear then.
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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #18

Brad wrote: E 3 should be at the other cons next year so the monster bits will appear then.


Doesn't mean it or any of the E's will be represented equally across all the Cons.
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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #19

jedibcg wrote:

Brad wrote: E 3 should be at the other cons next year so the monster bits will appear then.


Doesn't mean it or any of the E's will be represented equally across all the Cons.


Some people can only do one con this year. Not everyone can do GenCon.

We’ve had a single treasure mix for the entire season up until now. I’d be happy if that continued. I hate having totally unique comp tokens at every con. I’d hate unique loot mixes at least as much.
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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #20

Brad wrote: E 3 should be at the other cons next year so the monster bits will appear then.


No one is saying otherwise.

But it will skew the distribution. That is a bigger deal with 6 bits this year.


And not everyone can go to multiple Cons.
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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #21

Brad wrote: E 3 should be at the other cons next year so the monster bits will appear then.


If this is the case at Origins, I and many others will be saving our draws for use at GenCon.

I think its sub optimal for TD to have to have so many Treasure Chips hoarded from one con to another.
D&D teaches all the important lessons in life - the low blow, the cheap shot, the back stab, the double cross. - Jerry Marsischky

Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

You try to get them to play the game, but all they want to do is play the rules. - Ardak Kumerian

I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend - Faramir

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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #22

Harlax wrote:
And not everyone can go to multiple Cons.


I know, I can only go to one myself.

I still think the spoilers that can happen from the release of treasure bits and having monster bits that are not in play should not happen.

I feel one way you another.

In the end it's Jeffs call.
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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #23

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Dave wrote:

Harlax wrote:

Brad wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Harlax wrote: Will the bead Transmute be available at Origins?

probably


Origins is before Gencon right?

how will you be able to transmute beads before the monster bits make it in to the treasure boxes? or will the E3 monster bits be in earlier treasure boxes?


Origins is in Mid June.

Last year all four bits were in the Origins boxes. Of course, just because it was that way last year doesn’t mean it will be so this year. But if only the E1 and E2 bits are in the Origins boxes, that will lead to a massive imbalance in monster bit pulls.


It also means they'd have to prepare two different treasure mixes, one containing only E1 and E2 monster bits and then a new mix for Gen Con with all 6. If they have any left over treasure tokens from Origins, what do they do with them? You can't just dump them back in the mixer without messing up the distribution for Gen Con. Using last year as a precedence, I would be highly surprised if we don't see all 6 monster bits in the Origins treasure boxes.

Agreed. all 6 are likely in at Origins. If you don’t want spoilers for e3 then just don’t get treasure at origins. save your chips for gen con or don’t open your treasure if you are getting the bags.


I would like to see all the bits at origins. Many players have migrated to origins due to the cost of gencon, I kind of hate to see them miss out on the bits like they did the 2 dungeons. That might make some bitter people.


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2019 Transmutes Are Online -- Mostly... 7 months 1 week ago #24

Brad wrote:

Harlax wrote:
And not everyone can go to multiple Cons.


I know, I can only go to one myself.

I still think the spoilers that can happen from the release of treasure bits and having monster bits that are not in play should not happen.

I feel one way you another.

In the end it's Jeffs call.

Again if you are really worried about spoilers don’t get treasure until you have done all your dungeons. Monster bits for all dungeons have been in the treasure pool as long as there have been multiple dungeons to my knowledge. What is different about it now that you are worried about spoilers? How did you handle it previously?
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