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TOPIC: Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens

Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #1

I'm working on trying to improve my Fighter build. I've been looking at the 2019 tokens and planning on placing a pre-order this week. I can't decide if it is worth purchasing the new UR (Ring of Fateful Heroism) and wait until a future year to transmute it to the ring of Heroism. Or should I order a different UR token and just take the large step with ordering the 2015 Ring of Heroism. I got the opportunity at GHC to see the benefit of being level 5 but don't know if it is worth giving up both ring slots.

Looking for some advice, please.

Thank you.

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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #2

There is no guarantee that the ring of fateful heroism will transmute to anything, or that the Ring of Heroism will be reprinted.

That being said, if you see yourself ever owning more than 2-3 URs, I would shoot for some other way of getting to level 5 that doesn't lock your ring slots up - RIng of the Eel, Ring of Frost, Ring of Dark Health are all quite good for a fighter.

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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #3

The ring of fateful heroism mostly means you're giving up the option of 1-3 more damage per hit, or around 4 to 12 damage per room. Level 5 with no other rings is better than level 4 with 2 rings in all the reasonable cases I can think of, so I would say go fateful heroism. If you regularly start running nightmare runs and find a ring you want to wear, you can probably trade off the RoFH as part of a deal for another +level item

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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #4

I have the Ring of Dark Health.

My wife has a Cleric build the 5th level benefit is larger for her because of 3rd level spells are nice so I was just going to purchase a ring of heroism for her but didn't know if I should get one for myself.

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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #5

Matthew Hayward wrote: There is no guarantee that the ring of fateful heroism will transmute to anything...


I’d put it a little stronger. I’d say it’s almost guaranteed it won’t, because in almost every case when a token is on a transmute path, it’s announced at the beginning. (Even if the full recipe isn’t revealed.)

Level 5 is highly recommended for every class, even if it takes you two ring slots to get there.

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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #6

The only token that had a surprise transmute path was the recently reprinted Charm of Synergy. Redoubt Shield and Redoubt Helm had relics in later years but we knew they were coming.

Jeff has also said he'll never reprint exactly the same relics again. So I don't expect to see another Ring of Heroism in the future. But we could definitely have other methods of gaining level in the future.
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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #7

If you're looking at one UR purchase for next year for a fighter, I would suggest the Ioun Stone Gold Nugget.

If you're looking at more than one, you might consider waiting and seeing what happens to the prices of Ring of Heroism and Charm of Heroism once the Eldritch set rules change. I suspect a LOT of people will have spare Rings and Charms for sale once the Kilt is available and becomes someone's second eldritch item, thereby granting them +1 level and freeing up a precious slot.
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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #8

Another option is always to pick up a Ring of Heroism on the secondary market. I am guessing that a few more might be hitting the market if folks do the kilt transmute to get their level bump since any two classes will after Pax South get the level bump. I will have one available (shameless self plug) in the near future. I also should note I have no idea what the current market for a RoH is like.
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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #9

If you're looking at more than one, you might consider waiting and seeing what happens to the prices of Ring of Heroism and Charm of Heroism once the Eldritch set rules change. I suspect a LOT of people will have spare Rings and Charms for sale once the Kilt is available and becomes someone's second eldritch item, thereby granting them +1 level and freeing up a precious slot.



I agree with above. Wait and see how things shake out with the new Eldritch set changes. Still expect to pay a moderate sum but supply may lower prices. Try to aim for charm if you can. Are you working towards the Eldritch Kilt?

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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #10

Personally I think you should wait. Ring of heroism was running around $125 in 2017 and bumped up to $175 this year. I would not be surprised to see the price drop back into that $125 bracket.

Second there will be players like me ordering large orders, that will pull the ring and have no use for it other than as a loner item. I think it will likely be close to $80 as a guess on the secondary market if not purchased close to gencon. So I think the best option is to trade for it, buy it on the secondary market, or find a cheap Ring of Heroism.

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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #11

I agree with waiting a bit to see how much the Ring of Heroism will drop. It's worth noting that three items from the Might set or Charming set will also give you +1 level and fill some slots with purples as well.

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Advice on Purchasing 2019 Tokens 5 years 4 months ago #12

I can speak to my own experience.

I got the new 4th member of my group hooked at GC 2018. I proceeded to pick up another AoTF and ISSN, then turned my sights on Ring of Heroism.

Bought one from another forum member (whom I'd purchased yet another RoH from previously) for $165 shipped. I thought it was a good deal, as RoH was trending upwards like Wayne said. I would venture to say they were going to approach the 200 mark with the Charm Set going out of print.

Two days later after making the verbal agreement - the Eldritch changes were announced (& the new neck-legendary slot) and turned all my plans upside down. After token design was finalized, our builds shuffled around such that we didn't need that $165 RoH.

I listed it on my trade list for about a month at the same price I purchased it for- $165. No takers.

I eventually sold it for 145 as part of a deal involving another token. I was very happy to only lose $20 on the deal.

Long term, I think Wayne's projection won't be too far off. The Ring will probably settle at $130 or so. The original RoH is a great loaner item, so nobody is going to want to give them away. The RoFH will be a great budget pickup and I wouldn't be surprised to see it at that $80 range or even lower.
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