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TOPIC: Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind

Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #13

Jeff Martin wrote: the biggest change is the inclusion of an RFID chip inside the token.


That's awesome. I'm glad you've found a way to incorporate the technology into some tokens. Hopefully it will work well, and become cost effective enough that over time it will roll out to even URs. (URs would obviously require a solution to not be readable in a ten pack)

Really cool news.

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Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #14

Graven wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: the biggest change is the inclusion of an RFID chip inside the token.


That's awesome. I'm glad you've found a way to incorporate the technology into some tokens. Hopefully it will work well, and become cost effective enough that over time it will roll out to even URs. (URs would obviously require a solution to not be readable in a ten pack)

Really cool news.


Nintendo keeps their amibos from being read through the packages with a strategically placed interference strip just below the rfid.
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edwin wrote: For the 8K non-onyx orders, how will the orbs be replaced with the rfid version?


I'm sorry. I don't understand the question. Thanks for your patience.
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Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #16

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edwin wrote: For the 8K non-onyx orders, how will the orbs be replaced with the rfid version?


I'm sorry. I don't understand the question. Thanks for your patience.


You mentioned 8K onyx sets I figure that was referring to just one of three 8K order options. The option for 8K orders where people selected an onyx set of URs. This is the only option ofbthe three where one gets an Onyx set.

Was not sure about whether it applied to the other two 8K order options where one does not get an onyx set.

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edwin wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote:

edwin wrote: For the 8K non-onyx orders, how will the orbs be replaced with the rfid version?


I'm sorry. I don't understand the question. Thanks for your patience.


You mentioned 8K onyx sets I figure that was referring to just one of three 8K order options. The option for 8K orders where people selected an onyx set of URs. This is the only option ofbthe three where one gets an Onyx set.

Was not sure about whether it applied to the other two 8K order options where one does not get an onyx set.


Okay, sorry. Yes, the delay will happen for everyone. Sorry for the confusion.
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Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #18

Questions:
Passive RFID chips do fail in time, 30 days to 20 years later..
1. If chip is not read by the reader but is a real token is TD going to replace the toeken

2. Default back to manual checking fo toke s which the chips fail to be read?
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Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #19

Kaledor wrote: Questions:
Passive RFID chips do fail in time, 30 days to 20 years later..
1. If chip is not read by the reader but is a real token is TD going to replace the toeken

2. Default back to manual checking fo toke s which the chips fail to be read?

I have seen RFID chips fail initially, but once working, I have not seen them fail, at least for the 13 years I worked with them. There is a limit to how many times they can be written, but for just a read function, they should last for years. Failure would probably still provide an indication, the chip is there, but fail to read correctly. Typically a CRC or even ECC could be incorporated it needed.

I'm not sure what specific type and memory size is planned, but it will not have issues that many have of physical damage, once the token is manufactured. (unless Binia has me drill a hole in it for a sash) If the token will be identified in the chip, it would be wise to build in a write protect bit for at least part of the memory.

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Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #20

I have never worked with rfid tags, and have no knowledge of them

I do want to know if they are affected by strong magnetic fields.

I was planning to get something made with some dragon eggs in it for display.
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Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #21

Brad wrote: I do want to know if they are affected by strong magnetic fields.

I was planning to get something made with some dragon eggs in it for display.

It depends on the field. Put it through a degausser, and maybe, but standard magnets will have no effect. RFID's are EEPROM based rather than a magnetic recording. A credit card stripe is magnetic and can be erased.

The metal core on the tokens could prevent reading from the opposite side of the token, but it depends on the metal used for the core. Aluminum and many stainless steels will not have an effect, but iron or carbon steel could. In that case just flip it over. UHF tags may be less prone to this, but they tend to be bigger with less storage space.

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Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #22

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Brad wrote: I do want to know if they are affected by strong magnetic fields.

I was planning to get something made with some dragon eggs in it for display.

It depends on the field. Put it through a degausser, and maybe, but standard magnets will have no effect. RFID's are EEPROM based rather than a magnetic recording. A credit card stripe is magnetic and can be erased.

The metal core on the tokens could prevent reading from the opposite side of the token, but it depends on the metal used for the core. Aluminum and many stainless steels will not have an effect, but iron or carbon steel could. In that case just flip it over. UHF tags may be less prone to this, but they tend to be bigger with less storage space.


Sounds like the ones being chipped won’t go into the mag sliders anyway, but I hope the chip is going on the label side, just in case
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Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #23

Will they be available to pick up at gameholecon. I ordered mine through a third party and I don't want to have them shipped.

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Note Regarding 2018 Orb of Dragonkind 1 year 5 months ago #24

as a quick guess if you ordered via a 3rd party you'd have to get them from that 3rd party.
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