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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #49

jedibcg wrote: I have said it before and I will say it again the 50 bags are from the same mix. At least 900 maybe 950 of my pulls were from the bags both blue and clear. I spoke to Chandler who made the 50 clear bags. They were 50 tokens from the mix. He didn't look what went in them but did notice lots of colors. I pulled the first 2 clear bags (arpund 130pm) and last 3 on Saturday (around 6pm not certain if they made more). If it seems the box was hotter it is a perception. If someone pulls 3 to 19 from the box and gets something good you will hear about it. You don't hear from everyone that that doesn't an UR or better from there 3 to 19 pulls. You do hear about bad 50 bags.

I agree with you but previous data shows that if you only get 1 UR from 500+ pulls you were way below average.

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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #50

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jedibcg wrote: I have said it before and I will say it again the 50 bags are from the same mix. At least 900 maybe 950 of my pulls were from the bags both blue and clear. I spoke to Chandler who made the 50 clear bags. They were 50 tokens from the mix. He didn't look what went in them but did notice lots of colors. I pulled the first 2 clear bags (arpund 130pm) and last 3 on Saturday (around 6pm not certain if they made more). If it seems the box was hotter it is a perception. If someone pulls 3 to 19 from the box and gets something good you will hear about it. You don't hear from everyone that that doesn't an UR or better from there 3 to 19 pulls. You do hear about bad 50 bags.

I agree with you but previous data shows that if you only get 1 UR from 500+ pulls you were way below average.

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I am not following. when you say previous data are you talking about last year? If so I agree that the mix was not the same mix as last year. That imo has nothing to do with the 50 bags.
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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #51

I keep seeing everyone talking about fifty bags, what are those? Golden ticket pulls?

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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #52

After your run(s), you could pull treasure tokens then, or save up treasure draw chips and do a big pull later. If you had 50 or more, you could get a premade bag of treasure. Saved time at the treasure box.
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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #53

jedibcg wrote:

Dave Autzen wrote: What column does Bronzeclad Cloak go in?

I had 1050 rare/uncommon GP total, all from my bag of 50.

The bronzeclad is a 3 star token.
Just track the gold by rarity.


I had listed the gold, I was just stating the quantity in case anyone was curious.

Cloak is 3 star; thanks and I will update my post.
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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #54

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I added a column to calculate Other pulls that are UR or higher. I think I have it correct. Now we can see who we want doing all our pulls. ;)


I am using the Rare Vol token in that calculation which I could remove if folks think I should.
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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #55

I'm guessing my luck just wasn't there this year. Out of 4 runs (around 70 pulls), I only got something like 4 monster bits, 1K in total gold, 1 ring of the hallowed, and a few 3 points like arcane scroll tube, bronzewood cloak, etc. plus 1 grieves.

Guess I burned my luck points for tokens earlier in the year :)
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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #56

My luck was poor this year. Of 301 pulls, no relics or large reserve gold bars. 1 UR, 4 light blue transmutes, 3 tier 1 trade goods.

I got 7 greaves and one rare completion. )

The two 50 bags I took were nothing special. I drew the UR from the epilogue box Thursday morning.

The announced percentages last year were 5% "special." .5% relic, 1% UR, 1% reserve bars, 2.5% light blue transmutes. My sample size is too small to draw definite conclusions, but it feels like the mix was diluted this year.


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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #57

I posted my pulls in the doc for the first time to hopefully help the study. I do not think there is a set formula per say, it's all timing and what you get, but it is very fun to speculate. I talked to some players that had 300 pulls and did not get a single UR. It makes sense because you are not guaranteed that in the 250 packs.

This year was my greatest haul ever! I doubt I will ever match this again and that is totally fine. GHC & TDC both treated me very well, plus 3 out of 4 of my 250 packs yielded an extra UR. 2017 has been stellar treasure wise and there is still one more Con to go!

The highlights from my 147 GC pulls:
Aron's Sunhide Robe (*Traded it for x2 25k Bars, Viper Shirt, Charm of Brooching, Shadowskin Cloak & Stu Pendous Pendant)
Ioun Stone Tanzite Sphere
Ioun Stone Charming Cabochon (*Traded it for Pixie Figurine)
Kilt of Tavernbane
Greater Arcane Scroll Tube
15 Monster Bits
3,550 Gold
7 Darkguard Greaves
Greater Holly Ring (Was in one of my 50 Bags)

I was on such a crazy Token high this Gencon. My last 18 pulls were very crappy but at that point I really did not care at all.
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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #58

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Harlax wrote: My luck was poor this year. Of 301 pulls, no relics or large reserve gold bars. 1 UR, 4 light blue transmutes, 3 tier 1 trade goods.

I got 7 greaves and one rare completion. )

The two 50 bags I took were nothing special. I drew the UR from the epilogue box Thursday morning.

The announced percentages last year were 5% "special." .5% relic, 1% UR, 1% reserve bars, 2.5% light blue transmutes. My sample size is too small to draw definite conclusions, but it feels like the mix was diluted this year.


I found an unused 10 treasure chip in my hotel room Monday morning. Maybe it will do me more good at Gamehole. ;)


I think I would like something between last year and this. 1% for UR or better. currently we are looking at just over .5% for UR or better though other is around 5%.
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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #59

jedibcg wrote: I have said it before and I will say it again the 50 bags are from the same mix. At least 900 maybe 950 of my pulls were from the bags both blue and clear. I spoke to Chandler who made the 50 clear bags. They were 50 tokens from the mix. He didn't look what went in them but did notice lots of colors. I pulled the first 2 clear bags (arpund 130pm) and last 3 on Saturday (around 6pm not certain if they made more). If it seems the box was hotter it is a perception. If someone pulls 3 to 19 from the box and gets something good you will hear about it. You don't hear from everyone that that doesn't an UR or better from there 3 to 19 pulls. You do hear about bad 50 bags.


Look at my numbers, and look at yours and Kaledor's.

My (and Ed's) distribution of monster bits is slightly higher. My greaves are significantly different. My UR and relic numbers are also statistically lower.

I got four tokens of note : A dragon orb, a set of blessed mail (which was from last year), a charm of synergy. and a mystic mouth. *ALL* of these were from the six bags (300 pulls) I got Thursday afternoon.
Everything else was from Saturday's (19) clear ziploc bags, which, for me, contained nothing of note. Most of the trade goods I got came from the few direct pulls I did out of the epilogue box Sunday morning.

We will see as the rest of people enter data, but my overall impression was that the treasure I pulled Thursday had a lot better pulls. Maybe that was just luck .. but I claimed 0.38% of all the clear ziplog bags (19 out of 50) and saw zero tokens above a four point relic.

Alternatively .. you guys can simply thank me for grabbing all the crap bags, and leaving you the good ones :)

Oh well, I needed trade goods anyways :P
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Google Doc for 2017-2018 Season Treasure Pulls 6 years 7 months ago #60

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Sorry Steve I am not following you.

Your percentage of is way lower than the average but Kaledor's is above. Mine is .12% lower while ED's is .02%. That is is the kind of dispersal I would expect.

If you are comparing the clear bags to the blue bags, my legendary was from the clear my 25k was from the blue. I had a UR in each to round out my other 2 of note.

I don't think Ed has entered his Greaves and RotH because I would be surprised if he didn't pull any.


For any Adventure Guild's that got turned in to get the Greaves please don't put them on this doc (I had to edit my numbers slightly).
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