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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #25

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Rafiq wrote: Is there ever a time you would run with an AoW over a HoP other than the chance of getting double HoP? They don't need to make the AoW better than the HoP but they do need better options on the die. For example instead of +3 to reflex save they could have +3 to save of your choice. I don't have either so I really don't have a horse in this race but it would be nice for those that do to have an alternate option when rolling.

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There are probably a number of people that have the AoW but don't have the HoP, so for them it doesn't need to be better than the HoP. That number will go up if/when the AoW is reprinted.


I'd be pretty upset if they reprinted it.
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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #26

Even though I do not have one I agree that the AoW is a token that should not be reprinted.
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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #27

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I really hope it's not another die roll this year.
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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #28

I'm in the camp of preferring not to have the roll as well, if only the top one or two results are actually worth it. I understand the fun-factor of having the random chance and how it evocative of the 1st ed. feel, but it just doesn't sit right with me. The token itself says that it will have a "different cool effect each year," not a chance at a cool effect. Historically, the 1-4 results have been fairly weak and below the power level of a UR. I'd be fine with a random result if all the results were of roughly equivalent power. I love the creative possibilities of this item and feel that it is waste to have it wind up being simply a +3 Reflex neck slot item, merely because of a die roll.

Also, I agree that the Amulet of Wonder should be an "in-game" focused item and not have the Double Horn of Plenty effect.
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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #29

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Kithren Bloodwood wrote: Even though I do not have one I agree that the AoW is a token that should not be reprinted.


Why?

When were talking about game pieces in a game with a growing player base whats wrong with the occasional reprint. As long as its equally difficult to acquire as the first time it shouldn't negatively affect the price of existing units. And honestly from what I understand with HOP on a do not reprint list of sorts what other equally desirable neck options are there at the purple level besides the Aow & Mog (also out of print).
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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #30

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: I might run with both this year. See what happens.


Excuse my ignorance, but can you do that? I thought you could use only one neck item at a time. Or will these items work with the Necklace of Charms?
Or did I miss your point entirely?
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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #31

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lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: I might run with both this year. See what happens.


Excuse my ignorance, but can you do that? I thought you could use only one neck item at a time. Or will these items work with the Necklace of Charms?
Or did I miss your point entirely?


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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #32

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lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: I might run with both this year. See what happens.


Excuse my ignorance, but can you do that? I thought you could use only one neck item at a time. Or will these items work with the Necklace of Charms?
Or did I miss your point entirely?

my artifact lets me run with two items of the same slot...so i can use two neck items if I want...it only lets me run double on one slot

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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #33

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Kithren Bloodwood wrote: Even though I do not have one I agree that the AoW is a token that should not be reprinted.


Why?

When were talking about game pieces in a game with a growing player base whats wrong with the occasional reprint. As long as its equally difficult to acquire as the first time it shouldn't negatively affect the price of existing units. And honestly from what I understand with HOP on a do not reprint list of sorts what other equally desirable neck options are there at the purple level besides the Aow & Mog (also out of print).


Well, it would seem that anytime that you increase the supply of something that's supposed to be Ultra Rare you decrease the price that someone could get for it because it now has a greater availability. As the game continues in development we'll see new and different neck slot items become available.
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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #34

I'd like to see the AoW reprinted. Jeff said clearly last year that the only UR on a do-not-reprint list is the HoP, every other UR (including the AoW) is fair game for reprinting. And, if Jeff & Co. are going to so much trouble to come up with cool effects each year for the AoW, it would be great for as large an audience to enjoy that as possible.

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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #35

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I, too, would like to see the AoW reprinted in some fashion. But I'm not sure if I'd want it to be available as one of the regular PYP URs... especially since a lot of people shelled out significant amounts of cash or GP to acquire one, when it was advertised as "OOP."

But what if a limited number (say 10? or 25?) were available one year at the Auction? That way, if someone really wanted one, they could stand up with the hundred other people who wanted one, and people could sit down as the price got too high for them (kind of like the Arcane Recipe auction, but in larger numbers)

Another option which would be really cool: If it was possible to make a Relic version of the Amulet some day.

---> I don't mean use the AoW as the base for an even better token. I mean, what if someday there was a Relic-level recipe to make an item exactly identical to the Amulet of Wonder (except it would have a Star at the bottom) Then people who desperately wanted one, could invest the time & money & GP to make one. People who already had an AoW would be able to focus on the other Relics available that year.
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Re: Amulet of Wonder 2011??? 12 years 1 month ago #36

I agree with those who think that the AoW should be reprinted, along with all other tokens, from time to time.
For some, ultra rare tokens are no problem to acquire. But for the vast majority of players, they are hard to get or simply out of reach. They are not out of reach because of in game level or love of the game but because of real life financial conditions. In a game based on D&D, the in game fantasy aspects should be the deciding factor, not how deep one's pockets are in real life.
I understand that for TD to survive and expand, there must be a way for Jeff & Co. to rake in hefty sums, but all players, regardless of their real life situations, should have access to great play items. Otherwise, the fantasy aspect is watered down by mundane, money grubbing aspects. And for me personally, that is the worst part of TD. It really sucks for people to reach for great fantasy, just to be reminded that they are too poor to have as much fun as those more fortunate in the real world. After all this is supposed to be a fantasy game, not mean streets USA.
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