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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #25

<br /><br />OK, Censer officially useless.  The point of having it reduced from 4 points of protection and making the cleric a monotone statue was that it protected the entire party from area effect spells.  Thus it used to save the party 16 points of damage.  <br /><br />Now it saves one charater 2 points from being hit with a melee attack.  Talk about a MAJOR NERF!!!!<br /><br />

<br /> <br />Hmmm...I think I maybe at my Peter Principle moment.  I think you are right, but now that I think about it more...having the boots in the game kind of makes the Censer less cool and useful.  How about this for the Censer?<br /><br /><br />Holy Symbol of Redemption:  (Cleric)  If wearer killed remaining players healed to full hp (No raise allowed).<br /><br /><br />This would be a cool optional thing that the Cleric player can activate upon their death if they would like.  I guess while playing True Grind they would always do it.
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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #26

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That sounds pretty kewl.  I know the cleric is often a target of evil monsters.<br />
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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #27

<br />Holy Symbol of Redemption:  (Cleric)  If wearer killed remaining players healed to full hp (No raise allowed).<br />

<br /><br />While I really like this... I am picturing Clerics "gettin nekkid" (i.e. stripping themselves of all armor/AC bonuses) before the final room's fight to make it more easy for this to activate.<br />
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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #28

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<br />Holy Symbol of Redemption:  (Cleric)  If wearer killed remaining players healed to full hp (No raise allowed).<br />

<br /><br />While I really like this... I am picturing Clerics "gettin nekkid" (i.e. stripping themselves of all armor/AC bonuses) before the final room's fight to make it more easy for this to activate.<br /> <br />

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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #29

How about <br />Holy Symbol of Redirection:(cleric) The Cleric may redirect damage done from an attack to themselves instead.<br /><br />This way they could "Take one for the team!"  :)  if they really wanted too. <br /><br />You could always add in a clause "if this damage kills the wearer they cannot be raised.
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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #30

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<br /><br />OK, Censer officially useless.  The point of having it reduced from 4 points of protection and making the cleric a monotone statue was that it protected the entire party from area effect spells.  Thus it used to save the party 16 points of damage.  <br /><br />Now it saves one charater 2 points from being hit with a melee attack.  Talk about a MAJOR NERF!!!!<br /><br />

<br /> <br />Hmmm...I think I maybe at my Peter Principle moment.  I think you are right, but now that I think about it more...having the boots in the game kind of makes the Censer less cool and useful.  How about this for the Censer?<br /><br /><br />Holy Symbol of Redemption:  (Cleric)  If wearer killed remaining players healed to full hp (No raise allowed).<br /><br /><br />This would be a cool optional thing that the Cleric player can activate upon their death if they would like.  I guess while playing True Grind they would always do it.<br />

<br /><br />That is a pretty powerful effect - although the Cleric is often one of the last to go (due to the "Tank Class" status), so I'm not sure who would be left to heal.  It would be more powerful if the Cleric were actually allowed to sacrifice their life for the effect.  It could still be called the Censer of Sacrifice then.  The party could be healed to full strength if the Cleric dies for any reason, and the Cleric has the option of sacrificing his life at any time for the effect. 

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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #31

Is the cleric still required to do nothing but OM and heal?<br /><br />If you go with the Holy Symbol idea, I like Mike's suggestion that the cleric can scarifice himself for the party.<br /><br />An idea I had would be that the censer would protect area effects only, be they spells like fireball or cone of cold and  monster abilities like breath weapons.  That way, it does not stack with the boots, nor does it stack with the ioun stones as they prevent targeted spells.  It could even be bumped back up to 4 points since it covers a narrow range of damage now.

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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #32

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I like the redirection idea - that could be saved for a future token.<br />
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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #33

Holy Symbol of Redemption: (Cleric) If wearer killed remaining players healed to full hp (No raise allowed).

<br /><br />Would that function bring a dead player(s) back to life?<br />
<br />I play Cleric most often and as much as I love my other players, I'd still like to finish the game. So what if thee was some flexibility? What if the Cleric could sacrifice 2X hit points to heal 1X another character or sacrifice 3X to heal the whole party 1X or just something that isn't an auto-kill?
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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #34

No dead players I would say.  Just the ones who are dying or bleeding to death.
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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #35

<br />No fair sneaking up on the cleric, pinning the Holy Symbol of Redemption on him, and then stabbing him in the back...  <br /><br />

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Re: Final 2010 Artwork! Last Chance! 14 years 5 months ago #36

<br /><br />Is the cleric still required to do nothing but OM and heal?<br /><br />

<br /><br />No.  All that previous stuff is gone.  It is just a Holy Symbol that the Cleric can decide on whether or not to activate immediately when they die.<br /><br />At that time, and alive characters in the group of fully healed to max hit points.  The Cleric, however, cannot be then raised.  They are dead for the rest of the game.
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