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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #25

The Falcon wrote: I was speaking in the context of
Missed plot opportunity’s,
They got there box office $ True.
But there other money
Maker, Toys are not do well at all.
They say it’s because the toys got
Release too early. Sounds like some
Nice Corporate spin to me.
More likely they stopped selling well
After the fans seen the movie.

Chief Executive Officer Brian Goldner says the company made an error by releasing toys too far ahead of the franchise’s most recent movie, “The Last Jedi.” That contributed to disappointing sales of the products during the holidays — a season that was already hurt by the bankruptcy of Toys “R” Us Inc.

“The fact that we began to merchandise the film in September and the film came out in December was just too long a period of time to sustain retail interest,” Goldner, 54, said in an interview. It didn’t help that lots of other toys were hitting around the same time, he said, “with an array of entertainment initiatives coming to market.”


Based on the frenzy over the opening of Star Wars land at Disneyland and Disney World this year, I wouldn’t worry about the cash cow status of the franchise.

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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #26

The Falcon wrote: I was speaking in the context of
Missed plot opportunity’s,
They got there box office $ True.
But there other money
Maker, Toys are not do well at all.
They say it’s because the toys got
Release too early. Sounds like some
Nice Corporate spin to me.
More likely they stopped selling well
After the fans seen the movie.

Chief Executive Officer Brian Goldner says the company made an error by releasing toys too far ahead of the franchise’s most recent movie, “The Last Jedi.” That contributed to disappointing sales of the products during the holidays — a season that was already hurt by the bankruptcy of Toys “R” Us Inc.

“The fact that we began to merchandise the film in September and the film came out in December was just too long a period of time to sustain retail interest,” Goldner, 54, said in an interview. It didn’t help that lots of other toys were hitting around the same time, he said, “with an array of entertainment initiatives coming to market.”


My feeling why the toys didn't do well...cuz kids don't play with toys anymore. Nowadays all I see are kids glued to their phones and iPad's. Shame...
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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #27

Rob F wrote: My feeling why the toys didn't do well...cuz kids don't play with toys anymore. Nowadays all I see are kids glued to their phones and iPad's. Shame...


Although action figures and such have seen a modest decrease in sales over the years, toy sales are up over inflation year after year steadily. Now there is definitely an argument to be made that a good chunk of that is puzzles and games (which is the quickest growing subset of 'toys'), kids in general still love toys, and sales figures support that.

Also, <3 to all of the star wars movies. Some are better than others, imho, but I am easily pleased by most anything with lightsabers and empire vs. rebels.

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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #28

Well, since it hasnt been mentioned yet...hopefully, the one thing we can all agree on, is that the clone wars animated series is the best star wars.

And i wont go into my opinions on the movies, because theyre a bit out there.
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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #29

Ok, movie ranking
5
6
4
3
7
1
2
8

If you want rogue 1, put it between 3 and 7
Solo, between 7 and 1

I'm not their target audience after episode 6.

Ultimately opinion are like noses (or assholes)

Bottom line, they had a LOT of potential, and squandered it.
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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #30

Mike Steele wrote: I liked what happened in the first movie of this trilogy. I wasn't surprised at what happened to Han, I was pretty sure he'd only sign up for one movie. The Last Jedi was by far my least favorite Star Wars movie, way behind the prequels. I'm not sure if the new movie can fix the damage from The Last Jedi.


Harrison Ford has been trying to get Lucas to kill Han Solo off since The Empire Strikes Back. He didn't want to be Han Solo anymore and thought Han getting killed in Empire was the right thing to do. He kept coming back for the money and out of respect for Lucas.

This is actually true and straight from interviews I've discovered from Ford from my friends that work on Hollywood.
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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #31

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Endgame wrote: I'm definitely in the camp that the prequels were massively better than 7 and 8. 7 was just a remake of 4 so that at least puts it as second worst behind 8.

Such potential wasted. Just think how much better 7-9 would have been as the thrawn trilogy....

Sorry but that is what was so great about 7. A New Hope was a remake of Hidden Fortress (and some other stuff). Lucas was nodding to Kurosawa with A New Hope. JJ was nodding to Lucas in VII. In other words JJ Lucased Lucas. That is ingenious, 1 time. If The Last Jedi was a rehash of ESB that would have been bad. Thrawn novels were great but if they were going to be a movies they needed to be done in the 90’s when the actors were younger. Forget about recasting them for a Thrawn series, imo.


+1

Lucas has never denied A New Hope was an homage and his take on A Hidden Fortress. Which is a great movie.

When E7-9 was announced I was so hoping beyond hope they would be Zahn's version of the Star Wars U. That man is a genius!!
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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #32

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Mike Steele wrote: I liked what happened in the first movie of this trilogy. I wasn't surprised at what happened to Han, I was pretty sure he'd only sign up for one movie. The Last Jedi was by far my least favorite Star Wars movie, way behind the prequels. I'm not sure if the new movie can fix the damage from The Last Jedi.


Harrison Ford has been trying to get Lucas to kill Han Solo off since The Empire Strikes Back. He didn't want to be Han Solo anymore and thought Han getting killed in Empire was the right thing to do. He kept coming back for the money and out of respect for Lucas.

This is actually true and straight from interviews I've discovered from Ford from my friends that work on Hollywood.


I just wish it could have ment something. As it is its forgotten by the start of the next movie almost incidentally.

Imagine if for example Han dies, the lightsaber battle starts as normal, Kilo is winning because killing his father actually completed his journey to the dark side and and wow is he scary, out heros are well and truly screwed. Then at that moment the lightsaber flys to Rai in the actual movie instead, big revival, it flys to Luke standing there enraged at the death of his friend. Luke uses the anger to dominate Kilo and then Rai stops him before he can kill Kilo and fall to the dark side.

Like that you have instant weight to the death of Solo. Now Luke has a reason to not want to train Rai, he's still grieving for his friend and scared of the rage he saw in himself. Snoke seems like even more the puppeteer because he set all this up to get at Skywalker. Small change that more or less allows events to continue to unfold largely unchanged but with weight because the people who've known Han for more then a week are allowed to react.

Also where way Chewbacca huh, that's twice Leia has snubbed the furball, first the medal now this. Would have been forgivable if Luke had been there as we could have seen how the two people who've known Han longest handled his loss and their reunion. Then Rai the outsider in all this say takes Chewie's hand while Luke and Leia are hugging as if to say dont worry buddy I well get through this. Again small change but IMO one with more weight.

I walked out of Force awakens going "ok shes op but and I want to know what's going on but so long as the next movie pays it off that's fine, heck it might even be awsome". I walked out of last jedi going "Were the directors fighting because it seems like Rian Johnson went out of his way to destroy as many story arcs as humanly possible". I'm probably skipping Skywalkers until it's on Netflix.

Say what you want about the money the first 2 Disney films made, they devied the fanbase and that's never good.
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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #33

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Picc, I think we would been setup fine for the next movie. Unfortunately Rian got ahold of the movie and threw away everything setup. That isn’t the fault of The Force Awakens, it is Rian for not building on it.
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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #34

Rey and Kylo Ren's lightsaber fight was the worst part of TFA for me. Rey has had a lightsaber for like 30 minutes and virtual no training with the force can somehow beat the warlord and champion of the First Order who can hold a blaster shot in mid-air with barely any effort.
The end result was Finn waking up in a bacta tank in the next movie and leaving Kylo with a moderate scar. It would have been a great chance to make Kylo need a mask like his grandfather's, but no one suffered any real lasting damage.

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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #35

jedibcg wrote: Picc, I think we would been setup fine for the next movie. Unfortunately Rian got ahold of the movie and threw away everything setup. That isn’t the fault of The Force Awakens, it is Rian for not building on it.


I 100% agree with you. Force awakens may not have been perfect but I thought the it did its job and set things up for the trilogy. Last Jedi seemed oddly fixated on destroying that setup just because it was unexpected. Best case Skywalkers now has to undo that damage before it can get rolling. I honestly hope they can pull it off.
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SW:Episode IX Teaser 1 month 1 week ago #36

Brokkr wrote: Rey and Kylo Ren's lightsaber fight was the worst part of TFA for me. Rey has had a lightsaber for like 30 minutes and virtual no training with the force can somehow beat the warlord and champion of the First Order who can hold a blaster shot in mid-air with barely any effort.
The end result was Finn waking up in a bacta tank in the next movie and leaving Kylo with a moderate scar. It would have been a great chance to make Kylo need a mask like his grandfather's, but no one suffered any real lasting damage.


Calling it now, he's going to be a good guy before the end of the next movie.
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