TOPIC: A Question to the mages:

3-4 burning hands is probably a good amount for a token fanatic.
For the rest of us, probably 1-2 for the climactic battle at the end of the dungeon would suffice. That was last year, too. This year, there may be just one anti-hero/monster/whatever to face (not that I know anything of Jeff's plans, so don't read into this).

Token Fanatic - I resemble that remark...you all know me so well.

But seriously folks...you only get one wizard...you mean to tell me that with a party of 7 you can't get creative and acquire 3-4 50gp common scroll tokens for what could be the second best damage dealing Wizard scroll???

With the apothecary trading in scrolls - I assume, it could be a snap to trade in a few extra weapons for the needed scrolls. Those with limited very rares to trade or limited gold my advice is to pick up the damage dealing wizard scrolls as a team and come up with an understanding that the Bard and Wizard have to share...

Gee that would be a neat first round of combat...Wizard casts Burning hands against the two lizardmen...6pts each - NEXT - Bard steps up, Bard casts Burning hands against the two lizardment...6pts each. DONE.

Looks like there will be BBQ Iguana at the TD Tavern tonight.

That sounds good to me. Then I won't get any dents in my pretty new armor.

George

It appears that the FAQ was replaced with the V0.7 of the Price Guide on the main page so I can't quote but yeah, I do believe Burning Hands does 6 dam per creature up to two creatures. If you can do 12 dam automatically to one creature, this scroll might even be worth more.

So actually, I am looking to get like 6-8 or more. Have to be ready for Hardcore as well. ;^)

-Douglas

Douglas,

Are you throwing out an offer for BH scrolls?

Gary (all),

Honestly, I think it would be best to do my trades when I get to Indy or at least sometime in the future whenl the Price Guide is more in accordance with trades.

Given that I am maintaining it, I don't want there to be even the appearance of conflict of interest.

But keep them handy at Indy and hopefully we can do some trades then.

-Douglas

Good ole COI - hate that.

Douglas, I am a little disappointed - I thought you felt that the guide was not out there to drive trades - but to serve as feedback of the public opinion???

In that case you and I should be able to put our own value on items and make a trade without COI.

But waiting is fine too!

Based on the feedback I am getting, it appears as though the PG is driving trades (which can be fine assuming people agree with the valuations).

And as I said, I want to avoid the APPEARANCE of conflict of interest (not that there would be any necessarily).

At a minimum, I want to wait until the PG has received more input and stabalized. There are also some rules that still need to be clarified.

Thanks,
-Douglas

Just to clarify, Burning hands does 6 points to one monster OR 6 points each to two monsters, not 12 points to one monster. Think of a single effect, but being able to direct it to two different monsters.

Just as an additional comment, as a DM I think the tokens have some advantage. When time is tight and melee ensues, the tokens can be used with no lookup necessary to determine the final damage. It is quick and easy and allows more time for melee interaction. So in that clutch combat, it may gain you time if the DM and Wizard are not running back and forth to the Wizard’s plane board to tally up damage. The token is passed, the monster takes damage (most of the time) and combat moves on.

Just a thought to ponder,

Dave

A very good point that I had not thought about.

George

Dave,

Thanks for the token clarification. My guess is this will likely lower the BH value. Although 6hp auto damage is still good, it is closer to Magic Missle now in effectiveness. Probably 35-40gp? Ill keep my eye on other trades.

-Douglas

Actually I think 45-50 is a better price.

If you are fighting 2 or 3 monsters, you have likely done enough damage that a good hit by a fighter will finish the creature. So you and two fighters could kill 2 monsters in one round.

George