TOPIC: Strongest Fighter Build

apocalyptic wrote: Yea I was kinda just thinking about heavy hitting fighter to deal most damage.

Dealing the most damage is another story altogether.

I know Matthew has a spreadsheet on it, but the long and short of it is Monk and Ranger can do the most, based on their ability to attack twice/round.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Correction,

I was able to get a fighter with access to any tokens they like (excluding Artifacts) up to 46 strength using

Redoubt Set
Stu-Pendous
Orb of Might
Gloves of the Brute
Ring of the Hallowed
Shirt of Blessed Strength
Fiendish Charm
Wicked Charm
Ioun Stone Onyx Cube
Ioun Stone Onyx Sphere
Surtr's Girdle of Fire Giant Strength
Rod of 7 Parts

+ Pouch of Tulz & Potion Bull's Strength for 50.

You could also drop the Redoubt Set, add Crown of Might (same effect as +2 STR on combat stats), and add Fae Oak Armor for the same hit/damage bonus as if your STR was 47.

If you're looking for the potion, why not use Dwarven Dopplebock?

tokendb.com/token/potion-dwarven-doppelbock/

jedibcg wrote:

Jeff321 wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Redoubt Set
Orb of Might

I thought you couldn't use both? Isn't the rule... if a shield is used to fulfill a set bonus, you can't also use another offhand.

I believe you are mistaken about this. I could find nothing about it either the DM guide or the Coaches guide.

From the DM guide

"When a set bonus is achieved by equipping a weapon, shield, orb, or anything held in (not worn on) the hand, the hand-held item is “locked in” for that mode of combat."

EDIT: Brad beat me to it.

truedungeon.com/newsletter/Players_Guide.pdf

"Players using a shield to fulfill a set bonus may not use any other shield."

I guess technically an orb is not a shield...

Jeff321 wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Jeff321 wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Redoubt Set
Orb of Might

I thought you couldn't use both? Isn't the rule... if a shield is used to fulfill a set bonus, you can't also use another offhand.

I believe you are mistaken about this. I could find nothing about it either the DM guide or the Coaches guide.

From the DM guide

"When a set bonus is achieved by equipping a weapon, shield, orb, or anything held in (not worn on) the hand, the hand-held item is “locked in” for that mode of combat."

EDIT: Brad beat me to it.

truedungeon.com/newsletter/Players_Guide.pdf

"Players using a shield to fulfill a set bonus may not use any other shield."

I guess technically an orb is not a shield...

That is not the current Player's guide it is from 2012 (actually there isn't a current players guide) which is why I don't think you should be using it.

jedibcg wrote:

Jeff321 wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Jeff321 wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Redoubt Set
Orb of Might

I thought you couldn't use both? Isn't the rule... if a shield is used to fulfill a set bonus, you can't also use another offhand.

I believe you are mistaken about this. I could find nothing about it either the DM guide or the Coaches guide.

From the DM guide

"When a set bonus is achieved by equipping a weapon, shield, orb, or anything held in (not worn on) the hand, the hand-held item is “locked in” for that mode of combat."

EDIT: Brad beat me to it.

truedungeon.com/newsletter/Players_Guide.pdf

"Players using a shield to fulfill a set bonus may not use any other shield."

I guess technically an orb is not a shield...

That is not the current Player's guide it is from 2012 (actually there isn't a current players guide) which is why I don't think you should be using it.

I realize it's old but yeah I don't know of a newer one.

If Orb of Might + Redoubt Shield are both allowed (to net +4 STR) today... then it sounds like I need to pick up an Orb of Might because I was not aware of that.

It is allowed but you would not get the AC bonus of the shield when doing melee.

Jeff321 wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Jeff321 wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Jeff321 wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Redoubt Set
Orb of Might

I thought you couldn't use both? Isn't the rule... if a shield is used to fulfill a set bonus, you can't also use another offhand.

I believe you are mistaken about this. I could find nothing about it either the DM guide or the Coaches guide.

From the DM guide

"When a set bonus is achieved by equipping a weapon, shield, orb, or anything held in (not worn on) the hand, the hand-held item is “locked in” for that mode of combat."

EDIT: Brad beat me to it.

truedungeon.com/newsletter/Players_Guide.pdf

"Players using a shield to fulfill a set bonus may not use any other shield."

I guess technically an orb is not a shield...

That is not the current Player's guide it is from 2012 (actually there isn't a current players guide) which is why I don't think you should be using it.

I realize it's old but yeah I don't know of a newer one.

If Orb of Might + Redoubt Shield are both allowed (to net +4 STR) today... then it sounds like I need to pick up an Orb of Might because I was not aware of that.

It would only work if you switched to a 1 handed melee weapon, to have the off hand slot open for the orb as well.