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TOPIC: Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece?

Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #145

Golden Fleece just sold on eBay for $33.95 shipped, post announcement of a 4c transmute.

New all time low.

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #146

Announcement? I'm not seeing one. Where is it?
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #147

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #148

Matthew Hayward wrote: Golden Fleece just sold on eBay for $33.95 shipped, post announcement of a 4c transmute.

New all time low.

Are we sure a fleece will be part of the recipe?
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #149

Matthew Hayward wrote: Golden Fleece just sold on eBay for $33.95 shipped, post announcement of a 4c transmute.

New all time low.

Almost makes one want to just start stocking up on these cheep Fleeces. Sooner or later we will see an awesome item that will require them like the Rings of Heroism did and they will all shoot back up in value again.

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #150

Rebeg wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Golden Fleece just sold on eBay for $33.95 shipped, post announcement of a 4c transmute.

New all time low.

Almost makes one want to just start stocking up on these cheep Fleeces. Sooner or later we will see an awesome item that will require them like the Rings of Heroism did and they will all shoot back up in value again.


I highly doubt Fleece will rebound unless Jeff increases the amount required for Legendaries and also adds them to the Relic recipes. GHC is right around the corner which = even more Monster Bits out in the market. I predicted pricing would drop when this topic was discussed previously so $30 Fleece doesn't surprise me. Whether or not this is good or bad will depend on who you ask.
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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #151

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Harlax wrote: Announcement? I'm not seeing one. Where is it?


truedungeon.com/forum?view=topic&catid=527&id=246018#295445


Ok. I had seen that. But it only tells us there will be one, not what it will be or what the recipe will be.
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Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

You try to get them to play the game, but all they want to do is play the rules. - Ardak Kumerian

I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend - Faramir

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #152

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Golden Fleece just sold on eBay for $33.95 shipped, post announcement of a 4c transmute.

New all time low.

Are we sure a fleece will be part of the recipe?


My $0.02:
It is likely that a Fleece will not be an ingredient in the story arc transmute.

However, the individual monster bits from each year most likely will be required (likely one of each bit from each year). Since this storyline arc transmute will cover 4 years, you will likely need one of each of the 16 monster bits across those years. (Approximately 1.6 Fleece worth of bits)

My assumption would be that Jeff telling us there will be a transmute should have little to no impact on the value of Fleece. Many/most people that care about Fleece likely have seen the patterns repeat enough to assume that we'd get a story arc transmute, the only real question was when (and what it will be). But then again, I see the story arc transmute as the primary reason for the monster bits, and the Fleece is just something to do with my leftovers.

But I'm also not rolling around with a ton of Legendaries, so I know my view is not the only one.

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #153

Fiddy wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Golden Fleece just sold on eBay for $33.95 shipped, post announcement of a 4c transmute.

New all time low.

Are we sure a fleece will be part of the recipe?


My $0.02:
It is likely that a Fleece will not be an ingredient in the story arc transmute.

However, the individual monster bits from each year most likely will be required (likely one of each bit from each year). Since this storyline arc transmute will cover 4 years, you will likely need one of each of the 16 monster bits across those years. (Approximately 1.6 Fleece worth of bits)

My assumption would be that Jeff telling us there will be a transmute should have little to no impact on the value of Fleece. Many/most people that care about Fleece likely have seen the patterns repeat enough to assume that we'd get a story arc transmute, the only real question was when (and what it will be). But then again, I see the story arc transmute as the primary reason for the monster bits, and the Fleece is just something to do with my leftovers.

But I'm also not rolling around with a ton of Legendaries, so I know my view is not the only one.


If Jeff had announced there would be no story arc transmute, I think that would have had an impact.

As it stands we don't know how desireable the transmute will be. We don't know the recipe for it. We don't know if it will eventually be coming out of treasures boxes like candy out of a Pez dispenser. (Looking at you, Icecrag Hero Earcuff).
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Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

You try to get them to play the game, but all they want to do is play the rules. - Ardak Kumerian

I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend - Faramir

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #154

@Fiddy - I agree

If there are too many Fleece about, it could be because people weren’t sure about the 4C so made more Fleece than necessary. But there are always transmutes that require current bits.

I always use the GP option when making transmutes, but if the price of a trophy gets driven down below $6, I’ll start using bits instead. I’m sure I’m not the only one. So I can’t see long-term price of Fleece going below $50, unless GP drops below $15/1k. At that point, we have bigger issues than the price of Fleece.

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #155

it always works itself out. no need worrying etc. Mystic silk at one time were going for over $10 ea
gold was going at $0.03+/GP
it is supply and demand.

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Con Expansion == Swimming in Fleece? 6 years 6 months ago #156

Harlax wrote: We don't know if it will eventually be coming out of treasures boxes like candy out of a Pez dispenser. (Looking at you, Icecrag Hero Earcuff).


Man, Icecrag Hero's Earcuff is one of the next upgrades I've been eyeing. Wish I'd been around for the apparently pez-like Icecrag pulls :(
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