TOPIC: Flexible Transmute Recipe Thought

I was thinking, you know how everyone has a different mix of Trade Item Tokens? What if next year we had one Transmute that accepted any Trade Item Tokens in the recipe? It's recipe could be something as simple as "20 Trade Item Tokens in any combination". That way, no matter what you have in surplus, you can get a few of those transmutes to even things out.

I think this sounds like a great idea!

Mike Steele wrote: I was thinking, you know how everyone has a different mix of Trade Item Tokens? What if next year we had one Transmute that accepted any Trade Item Tokens in the recipe? It's recipe could be something as simple as "20 Trade Item Tokens in any combination". That way, no matter what you have in surplus, you can get a few of those transmutes to even things out.

Not to poo poo the idea, but I don't know if your original premise is accurate. If it is I would love to trade anyone short on Darkwood Planks and/or Philosopher's stones for Alchemist's Parchments 1:1.

I am betting most of us are flush on planks and probably stones, but I also figure next year we can ask for something heavy in planks like we did when we had silks running out of our ears. BTW my silks are starting to pile up again as well.

Again not saying it is a bad idea, just that if it is a variable 20 I am guessing it is likely to be 20 planks from lots of folks. Just my two cents.

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: I was thinking, you know how everyone has a different mix of Trade Item Tokens? What if next year we had one Transmute that accepted any Trade Item Tokens in the recipe? It's recipe could be something as simple as "20 Trade Item Tokens in any combination". That way, no matter what you have in surplus, you can get a few of those transmutes to even things out.

Not to poo poo the idea, but I don't know if your original premise is accurate. If it is I would love to trade anyone short on Darkwood Planks and/or Philosopher's stones for Alchemist's Parchments 1:1.

I am betting most of us are flush on planks and probably stones, but I also figure next year we can ask for something heavy in planks like we did when we had silks running out of our ears. BTW my silks are starting to pile up again as well.

Again not saying it is a bad idea, just that if it is a variable 20 I am guessing it is likely to be 20 planks from lots of folks. Just my two cents.

If everyone has a surplus of Planks, and they all get a few of these transmutes to clear out that surplus, then it did it's job. If some people have surpluses of other items and use those, also mission accomplished.

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: I was thinking, you know how everyone has a different mix of Trade Item Tokens? What if next year we had one Transmute that accepted any Trade Item Tokens in the recipe? It's recipe could be something as simple as "20 Trade Item Tokens in any combination". That way, no matter what you have in surplus, you can get a few of those transmutes to even things out.

Not to poo poo the idea, but I don't know if your original premise is accurate. If it is I would love to trade anyone short on Darkwood Planks and/or Philosopher's stones for Alchemist's Parchments 1:1.

Me first

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: I was thinking, you know how everyone has a different mix of Trade Item Tokens? What if next year we had one Transmute that accepted any Trade Item Tokens in the recipe? It's recipe could be something as simple as "20 Trade Item Tokens in any combination". That way, no matter what you have in surplus, you can get a few of those transmutes to even things out.

Not to poo poo the idea, but I don't know if your original premise is accurate. If it is I would love to trade anyone short on Darkwood Planks and/or Philosopher's stones for Alchemist's Parchments 1:1.

I am betting most of us are flush on planks and probably stones, but I also figure next year we can ask for something heavy in planks like we did when we had silks running out of our ears. BTW my silks are starting to pile up again as well.

Again not saying it is a bad idea, just that if it is a variable 20 I am guessing it is likely to be 20 planks from lots of folks. Just my two cents.

If everyone has a surplus of Planks, and they all get a few of these transmutes to clear out that surplus, then it did it's job. If some people have surpluses of other items and use those, also mission accomplished.

I would rather see more trading so if it was 20 planks that was needed and someone had 15 planks and 5 other they trade them to someone that needed those 5 others and had 5 extra planks.

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: I was thinking, you know how everyone has a different mix of Trade Item Tokens? What if next year we had one Transmute that accepted any Trade Item Tokens in the recipe? It's recipe could be something as simple as "20 Trade Item Tokens in any combination". That way, no matter what you have in surplus, you can get a few of those transmutes to even things out.

Not to poo poo the idea, but I don't know if your original premise is accurate. If it is I would love to trade anyone short on Darkwood Planks and/or Philosopher's stones for Alchemist's Parchments 1:1.

I am betting most of us are flush on planks and probably stones, but I also figure next year we can ask for something heavy in planks like we did when we had silks running out of our ears. BTW my silks are starting to pile up again as well.

Again not saying it is a bad idea, just that if it is a variable 20 I am guessing it is likely to be 20 planks from lots of folks. Just my two cents.

If everyone has a surplus of Planks, and they all get a few of these transmutes to clear out that surplus, then it did it's job. If some people have surpluses of other items and use those, also mission accomplished.

I would rather see more trading so if it was 20 planks that was needed and someone had 15 planks and 5 other they trade them to someone that needed those 5 others and had 5 extra planks.

I actually agree with what you said first, I almost put something similar in my original post but I didn't want to complicate it. I do think that, every year, there are one or more Trade Items that are in general surplus. I agree with you that trading your surplus trade items for other people's surplus trade items is a great idea, when that works out. I do that often myself. But - this solution would really help clear out those trade item tokens that everyone seems to have in surplus - which seems to be different every year, depending on the transmuted token recipes. And ideally this would be a transmuted token that people genuinely want, so it's not just a way to get rid of surplus trade item tokens, but a way to turn them into something nice.

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: I was thinking, you know how everyone has a different mix of Trade Item Tokens? What if next year we had one Transmute that accepted any Trade Item Tokens in the recipe? It's recipe could be something as simple as "20 Trade Item Tokens in any combination". That way, no matter what you have in surplus, you can get a few of those transmutes to even things out.

Not to poo poo the idea, but I don't know if your original premise is accurate. If it is I would love to trade anyone short on Darkwood Planks and/or Philosopher's stones for Alchemist's Parchments 1:1.

I am betting most of us are flush on planks and probably stones, but I also figure next year we can ask for something heavy in planks like we did when we had silks running out of our ears. BTW my silks are starting to pile up again as well.

Again not saying it is a bad idea, just that if it is a variable 20 I am guessing it is likely to be 20 planks from lots of folks. Just my two cents.

If everyone has a surplus of Planks, and they all get a few of these transmutes to clear out that surplus, then it did it's job. If some people have surpluses of other items and use those, also mission accomplished.

I would rather see more trading so if it was 20 planks that was needed and someone had 15 planks and 5 other they trade them to someone that needed those 5 others and had 5 extra planks.

I actually think something like this could encourage more Trade Item trading. If someone were going to do a transmute for this item, they don't care what trade items they are using, so they could trade any of the ones they were going to use for surplus ones that other people might have.

Mike Steele wrote:
I actually think something like this could encourage more Trade Item trading. If someone were going to do a transmute for this item, they don't care what trade items they are using, so they could trade any of the ones they were going to use for surplus ones that other people might have.

I don't think your plan would, unless the person needing a AP is going to offer something more than a DP, then it is not worth it to do the shipping. If I had a mix of trade tokens I would just ship them to Jeff unless someone was offering better than a 1:1. In person trading I could see but that is limited to conventions at this point.

Again I don't think your general idea is bad. I just don't think it would work like you think it would. I don't see it as doing much except getting rid of a bunch of DP that I would then imagine(I have no proof of this) will find their way into the treasure boxes next year. I think anyone with a mix will send them in as a mix, which will take them out of being able to be traded for unto they are pulled out of the boxes again (assuming that tokens sent in do end up in treasure boxes to some degree).

If someone has a big surplus of trade item tokens, and trades for ones they need, don't they often throw in something extra to make it worth it to the other side?

Mike Steele wrote: If someone has a big surplus of trade item tokens, and trades for ones they need, don't they often throw in something extra to make it worth it to the other side?

I haven't a clue. I haven't ever made any such trades nor do I know of anyone that has. Not saying it doesn't happen I just have no knowledge of it. So if there is anyone out there with knowledge of this what is the DP to AP ratio? And who want DP at that rate, please.

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: If someone has a big surplus of trade item tokens, and trades for ones they need, don't they often throw in something extra to make it worth it to the other side?

I haven't a clue. I haven't ever made any such trades nor do I know of anyone that has. Not saying it doesn't happen I just have no knowledge of it. So if there is anyone out there with knowledge of this what is the DP to AP ratio? And who want DP at that rate, please.

Prices fluctuate. Right now, I'd guess 3 DP = 2 AP. Maybe 2-to-1. Give or take. YMMV.

It just depends on the recipes, how big a stockpile is in play, and how many people can use a given relic. The Baton had fewer takers than the Redoubt shield (I'm guessing), which had fewer takers than the Cloak (again, a guess).

Silks were paperweights until the Closks and now Robes came out. Steel was, too, until Redoubt.

Given postage, someone making a trade to get stuff they don't really need should expect to get enough to cover the stamps. And some people throw in a little extra just to say "thanks for making a deal with me."