TOPIC: Transmuting Tokens

True but are you going to wear a Ring of the Deep too, just in case?

Donald Rients wrote:

Druegar wrote:

balthasar wrote: I would also wager that, just like the various potion storing tokens, you can't use the Sea Dragon Scroll Tube and get the bonus from the Greater Arcane Scroll Tube. Can only keep that scroll in one or the other

from the TDb descriptions of both Arcane Scroll Tube and Greater Arcane Scroll Tube :
The effect from this item does not stack with other scroll-protecting items--even if they have different names--because a scroll cannot be stored in more than one container at the same time.

So the bottom line is to carry both in order to cover each of the different benefits. How will the DM know which scroll tube I really had the scroll in?

I think a lot of things in TD are an honor system.

Dave wrote:

Donald Rients wrote:

Druegar wrote:

balthasar wrote: I would also wager that, just like the various potion storing tokens, you can't use the Sea Dragon Scroll Tube and get the bonus from the Greater Arcane Scroll Tube. Can only keep that scroll in one or the other

from the TDb descriptions of both Arcane Scroll Tube and Greater Arcane Scroll Tube :
The effect from this item does not stack with other scroll-protecting items--even if they have different names--because a scroll cannot be stored in more than one container at the same time.

So the bottom line is to carry both in order to cover each of the different benefits. How will the DM know which scroll tube I really had the scroll in?

I think a lot of things in TD are an honor system.

The same kind of situation has come up with pouches in the past. You simply can only get the benefit of one container at a time. So if you are in an underwater situation where you must use the benefit from the Sea Dragon Scroll Tube, you just can't also get the boosts from the arcane tubes. There is no need to worry about honor system, you simply happened to have your scroll in the case that you needed it in. If on your next action you are no longer underwater, the next time you pull out a scroll it can just happen to be from the Greater Arcane Scroll Tube.

Or at least that is my understanding.

Fiddy wrote:

Dave wrote:

Donald Rients wrote:

Druegar wrote:

balthasar wrote: I would also wager that, just like the various potion storing tokens, you can't use the Sea Dragon Scroll Tube and get the bonus from the Greater Arcane Scroll Tube. Can only keep that scroll in one or the other

from the TDb descriptions of both Arcane Scroll Tube and Greater Arcane Scroll Tube :
The effect from this item does not stack with other scroll-protecting items--even if they have different names--because a scroll cannot be stored in more than one container at the same time.

So the bottom line is to carry both in order to cover each of the different benefits. How will the DM know which scroll tube I really had the scroll in?

I think a lot of things in TD are an honor system.

The same kind of situation has come up with pouches in the past. You simply can only get the benefit of one container at a time. So if you are in an underwater situation where you must use the benefit from the Sea Dragon Scroll Tube, you just can't also get the boosts from the arcane tubes. There is no need to worry about honor system, you simply happened to ot your scroll in the case that you needed it in. If on your next action you are no longer underwater, the next time you pull out a scroll it can just happen to be from the Greater Arcane Scroll Tube.

Or at least that is my understanding.

Assuming you have duplicate scrolls, just split them up between the tubes. Don't use more from a Tube than you put in it.

But the point is probably moot, because you're probably mute underwater. From tokendb - "However, (Sea Dragon) does not grant the ability to speak or utter verbal components necessary to release the magic in a scroll while underwater."

So, unless you're using up a slot or a Pearl of the Sirine to be able to CAST underwater, the Sea Dragon is pointless. The AST and GAST protect your scrolls from water just as well.

Well, after an unexpected delay by the PO, my transmuted tokens arrived. They look great! I was concerned about the brown for the new trade goods, but they are really nice, and the images are fantastic.

Now to prepare for round two at TDC, so I can get a GAST and a relic robe for my wizard.

bpsymington wrote: I was concerned about the brown for the new trade goods, but they are really nice, and the images are fantastic.

I was most impressed by the artwork too. As far as the color goes, it is way better than I imagined. I think it makes the artwork really standout.

Only quibble - Darrkwood Planks look too much like Mystic Silk used to, so I'm getting them confused. But that's a problem that will resolve itself in a couple of years when my feeble brain forgets.