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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #1

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Have an internal debate that i can use some help on. Finally deciding to move up and beyond the basic plastic coin wallets as I now have a build that's outgrown them.

It's been brought up for years that Dansco album is the top choice for build carriers. My debate is for someone is likely to be changing builds in coaching room (shared tokens among prebuild class sheet or builds that change due to trades/whatever). How much a pain/time suck is it to swap tokens around in a Dansco?

The cheapskate in me sees option B as using a softcover 3 ring binder that holds the plastic token sheets that Kirk an others sell. That would seem easier to swap tokens around in coaching room a little easier.

Advice always appreciated.
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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #2

Both are good options.

I prefer dansco for my primary builds. If you put the tokens in the order that they appear in whichever character builder you use it is easy to swap. I keep alternate tokens on the last page of the binder.

I use the plastic sheets Kirk sells for secondary builds. I don't find these as easy to manipulate as the the sliders of the Dansco albums.

Only downside to Dansco is weight and bulk if you are carrying multiple builds.
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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #3

+1 vote for the Dansco binders. I carry my primary build in one binder with alternate tokens on the last page and I carry another Dansco binder for alternate builds/token sets for others to use.

I use a cylindrical pencil case for consumables in the dungeon but I am currently looking for something better.
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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #4

I use the wallets because they are easier to drop in a cargo pocket for easy access in the dungeon. I found that 3-ring binders always added a bunch of weight to my backpack that I just didn't want. Of course, that's just me not trying to kill my back...

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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #5

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I use a cylindrical pencil case for consumables in the dungeon but I am currently looking for something better.


Pill bottles, or screw-top Silver-Eagle sized coin tubes. Pog tubes work great, too, if you can find them. Pogs are so last century..,

I'm too cheap for Dansco, and they look pretty bulky, so I have a wooden box I converted from something like this: www.amazon.com/Art-Supply-Deluxe-Creativity-Wooden/dp/B00E3EXC7M/ref=sr_1_22?s=arts-crafts&ie=UTF8&qid=1463152862&sr=1-22&keywords=art+supplies

I found an empty, broken one at the thrift store for 50 cents, and spent about half an hour and $5 for new clasps, foamcore and sticky shelf paper. It holds over 110 tokens, so Shelly's build is stuck on the inside of one lid (wrap the shelf paper around the foamcore, sticky-side out) and mine on the other. It's easy to pop them off to rearrange them, and there's plenty of room for alternate tokens, loaners, consumables... And it has a handle. I've been using it for at least three cons and I love it.

I'll post pictures some day, for those of you who haven't seen it already, whenever I get around to finding someplace to host them.

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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #6

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Really my guess/worry about Dansco is how user friendly they to use for those of us not blessed with dexterous fingers? I doubt i'll have a static build all through con and expect to have to change pieces in and out in coaching room. Do users swap tokens in the coaching room or they just show the coach which tokens are in use via finger pointing?

I do like Brad's idea if i can find a suitable case, i'd just prefer something that if it tilts/falls over not having tokens go flying/bouncing/moving.
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Matt wrote: Really my guess/worry about Dansco is how user friendly they to use for those of us not blessed with dexterous fingers? I doubt i'll have a static build all through con and expect to have to change pieces in and out in coaching room. Do users swap tokens in the coaching room or they just show the coach which tokens are in use via finger pointing?

I do like Brad's idea if i can find a suitable case, i'd just prefer something that if it tilts/falls over not having tokens go flying/bouncing/moving.


I have only had one or two tokens move from jostling. I haven't dropped it on concrete though, so can't say what might happen then.

And it's probably time to change out the sticky on Shelly's side. Fortunately that's not a big job. I just never get around to it. There's only one spot where it's not-so-sticky anymore, so I just have to stop putting things there...

But the loose piece of foam core is there as a divider. If things were to go crazy, it keeps one side from mixing into the other. So there's that.

Anyway, I don't sell them. I just love mine. I should personalize it, or at least stain it, but... time.

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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #8

Legion wrote: I use the wallets because they are easier to drop in a cargo pocket for easy access in the dungeon. I found that 3-ring binders always added a bunch of weight to my backpack that I just didn't want. Of course, that's just me not trying to kill my back...



QFT. I cannot imagine having to carry around 10 or 12 Dansco binders for my group when we are not playing. It is much easier to just hand them a coin wallet and make sure I get it back when we are done. They fit really nicely in the front of the Shimano fishing lure bag I have. And again I only put in the things they may in the dungeon in them. Stat boosting tokens hang out in the Shimano trays (similar to what others have posted in the other thread) and those stay in the in the bag.
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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #9

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Brad Mortensen wrote:

dsypher wrote:
I use a cylindrical pencil case for consumables in the dungeon but I am currently looking for something better.


Pill bottles, or screw-top Silver-Eagle sized coin tubes. Pog tubes work great, too, if you can find them. Pogs are so last century..,

I'm too cheap for Dansco, and they look pretty bulky, so I have a wooden box I converted from something like this: www.amazon.com/Art-Supply-Deluxe-Creativity-Wooden/dp/B00E3EXC7M/ref=sr_1_22?s=arts-crafts&ie=UTF8&qid=1463152862&sr=1-22&keywords=art+supplies

I found an empty, broken one at the thrift store for 50 cents, and spent about half an hour and $5 for new clasps, foamcore and sticky shelf paper. It holds over 110 tokens, so Shelly's build is stuck on the inside of one lid (wrap the shelf paper around the foamcore, sticky-side out) and mine on the other. It's easy to pop them off to rearrange them, and there's plenty of room for alternate tokens, loaners, consumables... And it has a handle. I've been using it for at least three cons and I love it.

I'll post pictures some day, for those of you who haven't seen it already, whenever I get around to finding someplace to host them.

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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #10

Matt wrote: Really my guess/worry about Dansco is how user friendly they to use for those of us not blessed with dexterous fingers? I doubt i'll have a static build all through con and expect to have to change pieces in and out in coaching room. Do users swap tokens in the coaching room or they just show the coach which tokens are in use via finger pointing?

I do like Brad's idea if i can find a suitable case, i'd just prefer something that if it tilts/falls over not having tokens go flying/bouncing/moving.


It's super easy to change out tokens in the Dansco. If you get the 41 or 42mm pages the tokens do not fit tightly. You just slide the top plastic (each row has a clear plastic strip front and back) out, pop the token out and put in a new one.




That shows one of the plastic strips out just a little bit. The token closest to the spin (not shown) can be removed but the RoSP is still covered.
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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #11

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cdsmith wrote:

Matt wrote: Really my guess/worry about Dansco is how user friendly they to use for those of us not blessed with dexterous fingers? I doubt i'll have a static build all through con and expect to have to change pieces in and out in coaching room. Do users swap tokens in the coaching room or they just show the coach which tokens are in use via finger pointing?

I do like Brad's idea if i can find a suitable case, i'd just prefer something that if it tilts/falls over not having tokens go flying/bouncing/moving.


It's super easy to change out tokens in the Dansco. If you get the 41 or 42mm pages the tokens do not fit tightly. You just slide the top plastic (each row has a clear plastic strip front and back) out, pop the token out and put in a new one.




That shows one of the plastic strips out just a little bit. The token closest to the spin (not shown) can be removed but the RoSP is still covered.


Thank you, I've seen people carry the albums just never paid enough attention to see how in practice it worked to pull tokens (the plastic/acetate sleeve) in/out.
We're all the kind of people who enjoy the game on a "meta" level. We like talking about the game year-round. We buy tokens. We enjoy crafting. We get together during the off-season if we can. We are a very skewed demographic that way. -Raven

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truedungeon.com/forum?view=topic&catid=61&id=248097#315668 Matt's Humble Trade

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In dungeon build holder, Dansco or other? 7 years 10 months ago #12

The dansco website has a video on it also that shows the insertion and removal of a coin. I just ordered one myself so been looking into it.
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